Henry Payne for March 16, 2014

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    ConserveGov  about 10 years ago

    I hope the Dumacrats keep fighting against the Keystone Pipeline. It will just make this November even a bigger bloodbath for them.An ABC Poll says 65% of Americans approve it and only 22% oppose it.

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/t/story/obama-adviser-build-keystone-xl-pipeline-22898796

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    Uncle Joe Premium Member about 10 years ago

    “Obama has admitted to being a dope head.”Around the same time GWB was still an alcoholic, (alleged) coke sniffer. The same guys calling Obama a stoner, cried foul when Bush’s past was used as an argument against his policy. It’s a pretty pathetic argument in both cases.

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    Jason Allen  about 10 years ago

    “The job destroyer says: ‘Just pay your healthcare tax and SHUT UP!’”Yeah, that sounds like former head of vulture capital firm Bain. Although you forgot the “I don’t care about 47% of Americans.”

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    ARodney  about 10 years ago

    Jobs are up under Obama. Try some other talking points, if you’ve got any. Republicans are always worse the Democrats for job creation.

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    Jason Allen  about 10 years ago

    Yes, Obama used to get high and he admits it. Big deal. Lots of people tried pot in their youth. Limbaugh was using his maid to score prescription pain killers while advocating on his radio show that other drug users be sent to jail. Florida rep. Trey Radel was doing cocaine while advocating drug testing for welfare recipients. G W Bush was allegedly snorting coke while his father was President.BTW, using cheap school yard insults like “Democrap” really makes you look like just another troll.

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    Gypsy8  about 10 years ago

    ^There are now approximately 490,000 miles of pipeline crossing the U.S. and they are not ticking time bombs. They are the accepted safest, most environmentally friendly, and economical method of transporting petroleum. The reality is we need petroleum products and it needs to be transported from supply to end user. The alternative is starvation, freezing in winter, and sweltering in summer for a large portion of the world’s 7 billion population.

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    oneoldhat  about 10 years ago

    the reason no pipeline from canada to tulsa is that it would take business away from buddy buffet rail road // enbrige is on its way to build a pipe line to kitmat b c

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    Gypsy8  about 10 years ago

    The anti-oil sands folks have done a good job of maligning oil from the Athabasca region by calling it variously tar, goop, toxic waste, etc. The proper name for the petroleum deposit is “oil sands.” It is graded heavy oil because of high viscosity (resistance to flow) or bitumen. Because of high viscosity it is transported via pipeline by diluting with a solvent such as natural gas or naphtha which lowers its viscosity and is then referred to as dilute bitumen. The detractors have tried to convince the public that dilute bitumen is more corrosive to pipelines. Science says otherwise, as studies by the National Academy of Science have found it to be no more corrosive than conventional crude. .Like it or not, the majority of petroleum reserves in the world are heavy oil, being over double the reserves of conventional light oil. This includes two of the largest reserves on the planet – the Orinoco oil sands of Venezuela and the Athabasca oil sands in northern Alberta. Mexico also has a high proportion of heavy oil as does Saudi Arabia. .In the Americas, much of the heavy oil is refined on the Gulf Coast in refineries fitted to handle, store, and transport heavy oil, particularly the Valero refineries. .In other words, the U.S. is now heavily dependent on heavy oil for refining petroleum products and its use will only continue to increase. The U.S. gets all excited about being energy independent. Not going to happen, except on a North American basis. The U.S. now imports about half its requirements of around 15-18 million barrels per day. Oil imports are likely to decline as domestic production from fracking increases in the intermediate future. But dependence will continue. (The people who would like to control Putin by replacing European requirements from Russia with American exports of oil or LNG are idiots.).If the U.S. rejects oil from the third largest reserve of petroleum via the Keystone pipeline, China and India will be overjoyed, because apparently they like to feed, warm, and cool their population.

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    Gypsy8  about 10 years ago

    We all got to do what we got to do, but I lean toward energy independence and manage the environmental impact as best we can. A world without energy is very inhospitable. I recall stories passed down from Ukrainian immigrant homesteaders who came from a part of the Ukraine with no trees and very little other source of heating. They were reduced to heating homes with animal manure or any other available organic matter. They settled on some of the most marginal land available and thought they were in heaven because there was lots of wood for heating.

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