It’s not that I don’t believe in climate change, I just question the influence man actually has on climate change. They have found fossils of tropical plants in typically cold regions and there also used to be glaciers throughout the finger lakes region of New York. Climate change happens…with and without man’s help.
But if all the environmentalists are really serious about doing something about it, why not get serious without America always having to foot the bill. How about this?
America does no trade with any country that does not meet our current EPA standards. That is serious commitment and it is fair.
It would also go a long way in reducing our trade deficit and increase jobs here as we would have to manufacture everything we are currently getting from places like China and Bangladesh.
According to the New York times this morning, “Despite ice storms in the American South, it was the fourth-warmest January on record for the earth as a whole.” But hey, disgusted’s propane supplier says it’s cold.
oh,,,my,,,,gawd…yeah the headline should read…"ignorant cartoonists that “think” just because there is a lot of snow in one place, there are no droughts or rising sea levels in other places are the biggest threat.".. Hey, you know, maybe the extra snow is a product of climate change as well!!…hmmm hmmm, science? what’s that to your right wing agenda? Party on, man.
If Mr Ramirez bothered to read the news he might have seen that Arctic warming has decreased the amount of northern ice which reflects heat back into space. As a result the jet stream has weakened and deviates further south than normal bringing with it all the winter storms we have been experiencing. Of course he is preaching to the choir, all those people who DON’T WANT to believe no matter how much evidence is thrust under their noses.
lonecat said, about 3 hours ago @disgustedamerican
“you say, “my Illinois propane bill says this is a Global Cooling winter.So does my propane supplier.” Well, that settles it. Why ask the scientists when you can ask your local propane supplier”-my point was, and I don’t need any scientist to read my indoor/outdoor thermometer, or to warn me to take care of 10 stray cats that adopted me in the coldest winter in Illinois history for decades, or to help me pay for double or possibly triple my usual winter propane cost.-You need the scientists to help you deal with life????I prefer God’s help, and He has helped me fight winter depression from cold, dark days and cabin fever, snowed in and iced in repeatedly. He has provided me with extra income to pay for propane which spiked at $5.10 a gallon when the usual price is $2.00. I have a 500 gallon tank, and an open floor plan which means it is hard to maintain a comfortable temperature in continued low air temps and wind chills. -May God make your life interesting, lonecat.p.s. news headline, “SNOW ON THE GROUND IN 49 STATES”
Interesting the Pentagon agrees with him and it’s THEIR strategic planners and futurists who’ve been concerned for some time, which is where Kerry got the statement from.
Overtaxed said, “In order for global warming to happen, every place on the planet would need to jump up in their average annual temperature by the same amount at the same time.”+Did you really say that? Really? You’re joking, right?
“How about this instead, we help other countries become prospers and they will cut back for their own sakes.”
That’s an interesting idea. We are 17 Trillion dollars in debt and we should send more money that we don’t have to countries who refuse to clean up their act so they can spend it on things other than environmental control.
What’s even better is China holds about half our debt and they are one of the biggest environmental offenders. How about we borrow more money from China so we can give China the money they need to clean up their pollution? What a great idea!! You obviously put a great deal of thought in this, swr.
And by the way, I wasn’t proposing that we play hall monitor at all, I was suggesting that we get out of the hall.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2014/02/21/SKEPTICAL-CLIMATOLOGIST-CALLS-OUT-GLOBAL-WARMING-NAZIS-interesting reading for @lonecat and other true believers in the “flimsy hypothesis like Anthropogenic Global Warming theory”….ha.-
I don’t see this is a comment on the global warming theories, but the lunacy of Kerry’s comment that global warming is athe worlds biggest threat, as opposed to those mentioned in teh other papers. Not to mention his comment that global warming is a WMD. If the weather is a WMD, who controls it? Or, was that a Freudian slip on Kerry’s part (cue: tin foil hat crowd…)
To all you idiots who know nothing about it… and i’m including the cartoonist: the kinds of weather you are talking about have been predicted to be part of the overall global warming influence. Harsher winters because of more preciptation… and hotter summers. If you don’t believe in Global Warming, then how do you explain the disappearance of the snows of Kilimanjaro and those on so many other peaks worldwide?,The glaciers receding, and the hottest years on record all within the last decade? The fact that plants that were never found above a certain hemisphere are appearing way beyond the traditional limits? The number of inland seas that are drying up and the number of major droughts? The main point is the speed with which this is all happening… and the fact that carbon-based pollution has never been higher in recorded history; you have to go back millions of years to find anything colmparable, but at that time the changes were far more slow-moving.In other woreds it is real. Be very afraid… your grandkids won’t have much of a world left unless we do something major NOW;
Sometimes it seems that they don’t know about anything outside their backyards. They rely on a propane seller for their science. Or they think that the global average temperature increased only if the temperature everywhere in the increases simultaneously by the same amount (see overtaxed above).
Here’s a passage from Roy Spencer’s homepage: “It is interesting to note that, even though carbon dioxide is necessary for life on Earth to exist, there is precious little of it in Earth’s atmosphere. As of 2008, only 39 out of every 100,000 molecules of air were CO2, and it will take mankind’s CO2 emissions 5 more years to increase that number by 1, to 40.”http://www.drroyspencer.com/global-warming-natural-or-manmade/Can anyone who doubts climate change spot the problem in this statement?
“science” is a human ongoing study of God’s Creation.There is never a “final answer” by men…..there are always competing ideas and contrary theories.-I’m a high school grad that believes the Bible and we are nearer than ever to the Wrath of God in Revelation chapters 4 through 20, where God uses “weather” to punish unrepentant haters of Truth and Deniers of God and His plan for humanity. That will be an amusing to Heaven time when ungodly “scientists” argue over these coming events.-I appreciate the Christian scholars who work in various scientific studies. They see evidences that support past earth weather changes….the world flood and changes it made to earth…sea life fossils in tall mountains today that rose from below sea level in the transforming and creation of one continent to seven…etc.-In 2,000 years (estimate) there will be a renewed earth without the 7 seas. God invites all of us to put our trust in Jesus who paid for our sins on the Cross and died and rose again and who will Return and establish true peace for 1,000 years and then do another “remodel” of the globe for the New Earth. Hope to meet you there!-(I watch the whole earth, as much as possible. Especially the Mideast and God’s Zion…Israel. I am not limited to my nation in my concerns. God created a huge humanity and He said He is not willing that any perish….but He gives us the choice. Free Will. Choosing Jesus of the Bible is the Key to eternal life with God, the only Way approved by the owner of the Universe.)
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The idea of a “normal” temperature is completely irrelevant. If that’s how you think about climate and climate change, it’s no wonder you don’t understand the problem.
Enoki about 10 years ago
John Kerry is the biggest something… Idiot, liar, @$$, gigglo…
rnapiera about 10 years ago
It’s not that I don’t believe in climate change, I just question the influence man actually has on climate change. They have found fossils of tropical plants in typically cold regions and there also used to be glaciers throughout the finger lakes region of New York. Climate change happens…with and without man’s help.
But if all the environmentalists are really serious about doing something about it, why not get serious without America always having to foot the bill. How about this?
America does no trade with any country that does not meet our current EPA standards. That is serious commitment and it is fair.
It would also go a long way in reducing our trade deficit and increase jobs here as we would have to manufacture everything we are currently getting from places like China and Bangladesh.
kline0800 about 10 years ago
my Illinois propane bill says this is a Global Cooling winter.So does my propane supplier.
lonecat about 10 years ago
According to the New York times this morning, “Despite ice storms in the American South, it was the fourth-warmest January on record for the earth as a whole.” But hey, disgusted’s propane supplier says it’s cold.
nate9279 about 10 years ago
oh,,,my,,,,gawd…yeah the headline should read…"ignorant cartoonists that “think” just because there is a lot of snow in one place, there are no droughts or rising sea levels in other places are the biggest threat.".. Hey, you know, maybe the extra snow is a product of climate change as well!!…hmmm hmmm, science? what’s that to your right wing agenda? Party on, man.
bernardgarner about 10 years ago
If Mr Ramirez bothered to read the news he might have seen that Arctic warming has decreased the amount of northern ice which reflects heat back into space. As a result the jet stream has weakened and deviates further south than normal bringing with it all the winter storms we have been experiencing. Of course he is preaching to the choir, all those people who DON’T WANT to believe no matter how much evidence is thrust under their noses.
kline0800 about 10 years ago
“you say, “my Illinois propane bill says this is a Global Cooling winter.So does my propane supplier.” Well, that settles it. Why ask the scientists when you can ask your local propane supplier”-my point was, and I don’t need any scientist to read my indoor/outdoor thermometer, or to warn me to take care of 10 stray cats that adopted me in the coldest winter in Illinois history for decades, or to help me pay for double or possibly triple my usual winter propane cost.-You need the scientists to help you deal with life????I prefer God’s help, and He has helped me fight winter depression from cold, dark days and cabin fever, snowed in and iced in repeatedly. He has provided me with extra income to pay for propane which spiked at $5.10 a gallon when the usual price is $2.00. I have a 500 gallon tank, and an open floor plan which means it is hard to maintain a comfortable temperature in continued low air temps and wind chills. -May God make your life interesting, lonecat.p.s. news headline, “SNOW ON THE GROUND IN 49 STATES”
Dtroutma about 10 years ago
Interesting the Pentagon agrees with him and it’s THEIR strategic planners and futurists who’ve been concerned for some time, which is where Kerry got the statement from.
eugene57 about 10 years ago
“He just knows when some people need smaller words.”Cannot debate, obfuscate.
Dave Ferro about 10 years ago
I’m a patriotic “global warming” denier, and I’m proud of it!
lonecat about 10 years ago
Overtaxed said, “In order for global warming to happen, every place on the planet would need to jump up in their average annual temperature by the same amount at the same time.”+Did you really say that? Really? You’re joking, right?
lonecat about 10 years ago
You say “go read some real science paper not the NYT.” I’m always interested in learning. Can you recommend some good science articles for me?
Say What Now‽ Premium Member about 10 years ago
We will go down in flame shouting ‘Oh the stupidity’.
rnapiera about 10 years ago
“How about this instead, we help other countries become prospers and they will cut back for their own sakes.”
That’s an interesting idea. We are 17 Trillion dollars in debt and we should send more money that we don’t have to countries who refuse to clean up their act so they can spend it on things other than environmental control.
What’s even better is China holds about half our debt and they are one of the biggest environmental offenders. How about we borrow more money from China so we can give China the money they need to clean up their pollution? What a great idea!! You obviously put a great deal of thought in this, swr.
And by the way, I wasn’t proposing that we play hall monitor at all, I was suggesting that we get out of the hall.
kline0800 about 10 years ago
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2014/02/21/SKEPTICAL-CLIMATOLOGIST-CALLS-OUT-GLOBAL-WARMING-NAZIS-interesting reading for @lonecat and other true believers in the “flimsy hypothesis like Anthropogenic Global Warming theory”….ha.-
bigrafa about 10 years ago
I don’t see this is a comment on the global warming theories, but the lunacy of Kerry’s comment that global warming is athe worlds biggest threat, as opposed to those mentioned in teh other papers. Not to mention his comment that global warming is a WMD. If the weather is a WMD, who controls it? Or, was that a Freudian slip on Kerry’s part (cue: tin foil hat crowd…)
bernardgarner about 10 years ago
Try google “jet stream shift could mean harsher winters”. The writer explains how the loss of arctic ice is messing with things better than I can.
Pogostiks Premium Member about 10 years ago
To all you idiots who know nothing about it… and i’m including the cartoonist: the kinds of weather you are talking about have been predicted to be part of the overall global warming influence. Harsher winters because of more preciptation… and hotter summers. If you don’t believe in Global Warming, then how do you explain the disappearance of the snows of Kilimanjaro and those on so many other peaks worldwide?,The glaciers receding, and the hottest years on record all within the last decade? The fact that plants that were never found above a certain hemisphere are appearing way beyond the traditional limits? The number of inland seas that are drying up and the number of major droughts? The main point is the speed with which this is all happening… and the fact that carbon-based pollution has never been higher in recorded history; you have to go back millions of years to find anything colmparable, but at that time the changes were far more slow-moving.In other woreds it is real. Be very afraid… your grandkids won’t have much of a world left unless we do something major NOW;
lonecat about 10 years ago
Sometimes it seems that they don’t know about anything outside their backyards. They rely on a propane seller for their science. Or they think that the global average temperature increased only if the temperature everywhere in the increases simultaneously by the same amount (see overtaxed above).
lonecat about 10 years ago
Here’s a passage from Roy Spencer’s homepage: “It is interesting to note that, even though carbon dioxide is necessary for life on Earth to exist, there is precious little of it in Earth’s atmosphere. As of 2008, only 39 out of every 100,000 molecules of air were CO2, and it will take mankind’s CO2 emissions 5 more years to increase that number by 1, to 40.”http://www.drroyspencer.com/global-warming-natural-or-manmade/Can anyone who doubts climate change spot the problem in this statement?
kline0800 about 10 years ago
“science” is a human ongoing study of God’s Creation.There is never a “final answer” by men…..there are always competing ideas and contrary theories.-I’m a high school grad that believes the Bible and we are nearer than ever to the Wrath of God in Revelation chapters 4 through 20, where God uses “weather” to punish unrepentant haters of Truth and Deniers of God and His plan for humanity. That will be an amusing to Heaven time when ungodly “scientists” argue over these coming events.-I appreciate the Christian scholars who work in various scientific studies. They see evidences that support past earth weather changes….the world flood and changes it made to earth…sea life fossils in tall mountains today that rose from below sea level in the transforming and creation of one continent to seven…etc.-In 2,000 years (estimate) there will be a renewed earth without the 7 seas. God invites all of us to put our trust in Jesus who paid for our sins on the Cross and died and rose again and who will Return and establish true peace for 1,000 years and then do another “remodel” of the globe for the New Earth. Hope to meet you there!-(I watch the whole earth, as much as possible. Especially the Mideast and God’s Zion…Israel. I am not limited to my nation in my concerns. God created a huge humanity and He said He is not willing that any perish….but He gives us the choice. Free Will. Choosing Jesus of the Bible is the Key to eternal life with God, the only Way approved by the owner of the Universe.)
lonecat about 10 years ago
Ouch!! Interesting, but not fun.
majormarj about 10 years ago
It was just recorded that the last year was the last the warmest ever !!
Liam Astle Premium Member about 10 years ago
Tell that to the people who are seeing more snow this winter than they have in their entire lives.
kline0800 about 10 years ago
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In the AccuWeather.com Global Climate Change Center, you will find links to the latest research, commentary by experts with various points of view on all aspects of climate change, and a forum for you to share your own thoughts, ask questions, and interact with the best scientific minds and knowledge in this area. From time to time, we may post questions about climate change for general consideration and to further stimulate debate. We welcome your contributions to the discussion.
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lonecat about 10 years ago
The idea of a “normal” temperature is completely irrelevant. If that’s how you think about climate and climate change, it’s no wonder you don’t understand the problem.