Raising that unemployed person’s IQ, education, and skill level to a point where they are employable might help. There are plenty of people far too stupid to get a job that pays a “living wage.”Stupid on their part does not create a crisis or need to do something about it on my part.
I don’t know for sure Adrian. In the past the military, construction, and many other industries needed strong backs and weak minds, cannon fodder, and the like.While that sounds harsh, it is historically accurate..Today? Maybe if we were to revert to a more dispersed social system of smaller towns that were largely self-supporting such persons could find a useful place and make a living.As it is, it is cheaper for large industry to automate than use the dull. That trend is accelerating particularly as wages and the cost of labor rises. Government has a big role in making that happen and in large part because it is still mired 50 to 75 years ago in its social ideas..If labor of that sort was cheap industry would be hiring it. But, it is cheaper to pay one guy on a backhoe and a second with a dump truck to dig a ditch than 20 or 30 men with shovels and wheelbarrows. That’s just the way it is..So, no, I don’t have all the answers even if I recognize the problem.
Reasons, my post was neither angry or a rant. Just because it apparently angers you is no reason to insult me..As for education there is a mountian of data that clearly shows nearly zero coorelation between spending and results. Ignorance can be had very expensively too.Slogans are no substitute for thought out solutions and throwing money at the problem is clearly not the solution in the case of education..
I don’t flag, even (especially) when something is directed against me. If coraryan thinks I’m stupid, hey, I can live with it. I miss my friends DrC and martens, and perhaps coraryan has friends here who would miss her if she were disappeared.
Unemployment can be an individual problem, or it can be a social problem. If there’s lots of good jobs out there just waiting to be filled, then I would say that if someone is out of a job it just might be an individual problem that needs an individual fix. But when there are lots of people out of work and not a lot of jobs, then I suspect that we have a social problem that needs a social solution.
wELL, WHEN YOU TAKE AWAY CITIZEN’S GUNS, THE (d) ENCORAGED CROOKS DON’T FEAR AN UNARMED CITIZENRY.
Want proof? OKay put up signs on your house that you have no guns, knives, arrows or rocks! I’ve seen signs, this property protected by Smith and Wesson.
Why none saying they have no weapons?
Do you Libs pay $500 for mowing your small lawn? I and my kids have experienced Libs trying to lower their proffered price for mowing their lawn after the job was done.
A business has to make money on it’s employed workers.
Well except for Walmart, and Libs don’t like them! Walmart gave 9-11 workers free food and handkerchiefs etc!
Union aware and sensitive, Chicago stopped Walmart stores from entering the Chicago area.
They don’t want Unionless jobs, though workers have the right to work for the wages they will accept. It is called FREEDOM which is obviously against Union rules.
Unions have closed Newspapers and other businesses and have become the crocked organization that they claimed to oppose.
In general I think a (reasonably regulated) market works well in good times; in good times the government should run a balanced budget. Then in bad times the government should intervene and provide employment so that people will have money to put back into the economy. Unfortunately, when the great recession hit, the government didn’t have the kind of economic flexibility that would have allowed for a good stimulus. I know that some people don’t agree with this idea, but it makes sense to me.
I see that coraryan seems to have disappeared. I can’t say that I will miss her, but I don’t believe she should be banned any more than my friends DrC and martens, whom I do miss, should have been banned. Do we really need to have such a restrictive regime?
Rand Paul is named for Russian fascist Ayn Rand who wrote the convoluted and illogical “Atlas Shrugged.” I tried to analyze it for a college ethics class and found all of its ethics circular and impenetrable – just like Senator Rand Paul’s statements.
Enoki over 10 years ago
Raising that unemployed person’s IQ, education, and skill level to a point where they are employable might help. There are plenty of people far too stupid to get a job that pays a “living wage.”Stupid on their part does not create a crisis or need to do something about it on my part.
OmqR-IV.0 over 10 years ago
hurled: “Ok, first of all, developmentally delayed is not the same as stupid. For instance, you are stupid.”
Know what we need? A chap that champions civility in our little forum.
Enoki over 10 years ago
I don’t know for sure Adrian. In the past the military, construction, and many other industries needed strong backs and weak minds, cannon fodder, and the like.While that sounds harsh, it is historically accurate..Today? Maybe if we were to revert to a more dispersed social system of smaller towns that were largely self-supporting such persons could find a useful place and make a living.As it is, it is cheaper for large industry to automate than use the dull. That trend is accelerating particularly as wages and the cost of labor rises. Government has a big role in making that happen and in large part because it is still mired 50 to 75 years ago in its social ideas..If labor of that sort was cheap industry would be hiring it. But, it is cheaper to pay one guy on a backhoe and a second with a dump truck to dig a ditch than 20 or 30 men with shovels and wheelbarrows. That’s just the way it is..So, no, I don’t have all the answers even if I recognize the problem.
Enoki over 10 years ago
Reasons, my post was neither angry or a rant. Just because it apparently angers you is no reason to insult me..As for education there is a mountian of data that clearly shows nearly zero coorelation between spending and results. Ignorance can be had very expensively too.Slogans are no substitute for thought out solutions and throwing money at the problem is clearly not the solution in the case of education..
lonecat over 10 years ago
I don’t flag, even (especially) when something is directed against me. If coraryan thinks I’m stupid, hey, I can live with it. I miss my friends DrC and martens, and perhaps coraryan has friends here who would miss her if she were disappeared.
lonecat over 10 years ago
Unemployment can be an individual problem, or it can be a social problem. If there’s lots of good jobs out there just waiting to be filled, then I would say that if someone is out of a job it just might be an individual problem that needs an individual fix. But when there are lots of people out of work and not a lot of jobs, then I suspect that we have a social problem that needs a social solution.
albeort over 10 years ago
House dems. voted 163 to 32 to end unemployment benefits. In the senate the dems voted 49 to 4 to end unemployment benefits. FACT
artistdavid over 10 years ago
wELL, WHEN YOU TAKE AWAY CITIZEN’S GUNS, THE (d) ENCORAGED CROOKS DON’T FEAR AN UNARMED CITIZENRY.
Want proof? OKay put up signs on your house that you have no guns, knives, arrows or rocks! I’ve seen signs, this property protected by Smith and Wesson.
Why none saying they have no weapons?
Do you Libs pay $500 for mowing your small lawn? I and my kids have experienced Libs trying to lower their proffered price for mowing their lawn after the job was done.
A business has to make money on it’s employed workers.
Well except for Walmart, and Libs don’t like them! Walmart gave 9-11 workers free food and handkerchiefs etc!
Union aware and sensitive, Chicago stopped Walmart stores from entering the Chicago area.
They don’t want Unionless jobs, though workers have the right to work for the wages they will accept. It is called FREEDOM which is obviously against Union rules.
Unions have closed Newspapers and other businesses and have become the crocked organization that they claimed to oppose.
lonecat over 10 years ago
In general I think a (reasonably regulated) market works well in good times; in good times the government should run a balanced budget. Then in bad times the government should intervene and provide employment so that people will have money to put back into the economy. Unfortunately, when the great recession hit, the government didn’t have the kind of economic flexibility that would have allowed for a good stimulus. I know that some people don’t agree with this idea, but it makes sense to me.
lonecat over 10 years ago
I see that coraryan seems to have disappeared. I can’t say that I will miss her, but I don’t believe she should be banned any more than my friends DrC and martens, whom I do miss, should have been banned. Do we really need to have such a restrictive regime?
lonecat over 10 years ago
Don’t be fooled — I’m really a conservative sock-puppet designed to make lefties look stupid. I could show you evidence, but it got up and went away.
Jib76 over 10 years ago
Rand Paul is named for Russian fascist Ayn Rand who wrote the convoluted and illogical “Atlas Shrugged.” I tried to analyze it for a college ethics class and found all of its ethics circular and impenetrable – just like Senator Rand Paul’s statements.