Let us pretend.Iran decides to launch a nuclear warhead at Israel, the closest target it can actually reach.A – Israel’s Iron Dome shoots it down, radioactive debris scatters on East Palestine, Jordan and Syria, even if Israel doesn’t respond, the UN, USA, Europe, and the Middle East lock Iran down on all sides. Consequences ensue.B – Iron Dome fails to intercept, Tel Aviv or another major Israeli city explodes. Radioactive debris falls all over East Palestine, Jordan, Syria, and other nations east of the explosion, including possibly Iran sickening and/or killing thousands more. Israel fires up to one nuke for every Iranian population center over 25k people unless they wait long enough to see what the irradiated nations and the rest of the world decides to do to Iran first.What has Iran just won?Nuclear weapons are no longer first strike weapons. They are the… if you attack me hard enough to defeat me, I’ll use this, weapon.There are always crazy people who can change the dynamic, too many think God wants them to start Armageddon, but in a relatively sane world, no one wants to be the recipient of the world’s anger for being the one to use a third nuclear explosion in anger.Respectfully,C.
Interesting comparison between posts. Radish gives some informative history of Iran’s nuclear program. Michael Wme and Respectful Troll add some thoughtful insights. And Debt Free rejects it all in a declarative anti-Obama talking point. Is this an example of the liberal/conservative, Republican/Democrat dichotomy? Not difficult to see which side is best prepared to run the country.
While the psychotic “right” is overly loud compared to the more rational component, filibusters and a war in Iraq show that a loud minority, with control of threat and the media, can dominate over rational folks.
“That is only what they tell the recruits, doubt they are that deluded.” They aren’t deluded, they are convinced they are right and all the scarier for it. You can’t judge fanatics by sane motivations.
And your pal, Jimmy Bumpkins Carter, toppled the ShahCarter & the U.S. backed the Shah, but Iranians rightly saw the regime as brutal, corrupt & greedy. Because Reza Shah was seen as an American puppet, the ayatollahs didn’t have a hard time convincing more secular Iranians that their anti-Western ideology was a good thing. Short of sending troops in, there was no way to save the Shah.Sorry to pop your bubble.
Iran, in exchange for the enormous sum of $4 billion, agreed to limit its enrichment to 5%Fox news has been portraying this as economic aid to Iran, but it’s actually their own money that has been frozen by western banks.
Dtroutma over 10 years ago
Hmm, actually, there’s considerable discussion that they were, as in that was “the Orient”. Of course the area from Turkey east IS Asia.
Ida No over 10 years ago
Iran, Russia, the U.S., Japan, Israel, Turkey, China, both Koreas, England, Australia… Why does everyone pick on the newcomer?
chazandru over 10 years ago
Let us pretend.Iran decides to launch a nuclear warhead at Israel, the closest target it can actually reach.A – Israel’s Iron Dome shoots it down, radioactive debris scatters on East Palestine, Jordan and Syria, even if Israel doesn’t respond, the UN, USA, Europe, and the Middle East lock Iran down on all sides. Consequences ensue.B – Iron Dome fails to intercept, Tel Aviv or another major Israeli city explodes. Radioactive debris falls all over East Palestine, Jordan, Syria, and other nations east of the explosion, including possibly Iran sickening and/or killing thousands more. Israel fires up to one nuke for every Iranian population center over 25k people unless they wait long enough to see what the irradiated nations and the rest of the world decides to do to Iran first.What has Iran just won?Nuclear weapons are no longer first strike weapons. They are the… if you attack me hard enough to defeat me, I’ll use this, weapon.There are always crazy people who can change the dynamic, too many think God wants them to start Armageddon, but in a relatively sane world, no one wants to be the recipient of the world’s anger for being the one to use a third nuclear explosion in anger.Respectfully,C.
PICTO over 10 years ago
It looks like Iran is regifting …
Gypsy8 over 10 years ago
Interesting comparison between posts. Radish gives some informative history of Iran’s nuclear program. Michael Wme and Respectful Troll add some thoughtful insights. And Debt Free rejects it all in a declarative anti-Obama talking point. Is this an example of the liberal/conservative, Republican/Democrat dichotomy? Not difficult to see which side is best prepared to run the country.
stamps over 10 years ago
Well, at least the sane to wingnut ratio is improving.
lonecat over 10 years ago
They went all the way around.
Dtroutma over 10 years ago
While the psychotic “right” is overly loud compared to the more rational component, filibusters and a war in Iraq show that a loud minority, with control of threat and the media, can dominate over rational folks.
dzw3030 over 10 years ago
“That is only what they tell the recruits, doubt they are that deluded.” They aren’t deluded, they are convinced they are right and all the scarier for it. You can’t judge fanatics by sane motivations.
Uncle Joe Premium Member over 10 years ago
And your pal, Jimmy Bumpkins Carter, toppled the ShahCarter & the U.S. backed the Shah, but Iranians rightly saw the regime as brutal, corrupt & greedy. Because Reza Shah was seen as an American puppet, the ayatollahs didn’t have a hard time convincing more secular Iranians that their anti-Western ideology was a good thing. Short of sending troops in, there was no way to save the Shah.Sorry to pop your bubble.
Uncle Joe Premium Member over 10 years ago
Iran, in exchange for the enormous sum of $4 billion, agreed to limit its enrichment to 5%Fox news has been portraying this as economic aid to Iran, but it’s actually their own money that has been frozen by western banks.
Dtroutma over 10 years ago
Regarding the Shah and U.S. support of the “kindly old man Iranians loved” I give you one word: Savak.