Jeff Danziger for December 08, 2013

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    s_roberts99  over 10 years ago

    Another man’s perspective: “It is not the employer who pays the wages. Employers only handle the money. It is the customer who pays the wages.” Henry Ford

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    Uncle Joe Premium Member over 10 years ago

    “If you raise the Minimum wage to this level, the cost of every thing will double or triple, and the minimum wage worker will still not have a “Living Wage””Double or triple? Methinks you exaggerate. Minimum wage workers don’t account for that much of our economy. Industries that rely heavily on minimum wage workers will increase prices, but they aren’t going to to double or triple. The proposals are calling for increasing minimum to $10.10. I think Zuhlemon was throwing the historical number out for reference.Even fast food restaurants can succeed while paying that wage.http://www.kcet.org/living/food/food-rant/why-does-in-n-out-pay-so-well.htmlMinimum wage went from $2.30 to $3.35 during the years of 1977 – 1981. $10 an hour in 1984 would be equivalent to $22.52 today.

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    Dtroutma  over 10 years ago

    When I got the minimum wage of $1/hour it was a step up! Of course, you could by a new car for under $1,000, granted, not many options. Of course today, that “stripped” car costs from $18,000 to $28,000 depending on what “brand” you select, so should the minimum be between $18 and $28/hour? In ’55, my folks got $0.35 for our DELUXE hamburger at our restaurant. A full steak dinner was $1.65!

    The minimum wage is NOT what drove inflation, it was maximizing PROFITS!

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    Hawthorne  over 10 years ago

    “Many do not understand economics, when the Minimum Wage increases, the costs of everything increases keeping the minimum wage worker in a barley scrape by situation.

    Prices are increased to pay for the increase of the Minimum Wage."

    Right you are.

    Why would you support the idea that if employees get any increase at all – and $15/hr? Who are you kidding? They’ll be lucky to get $.15/hr, but the CEO will take a minimum of $15k.

    There lies the problem. Now you have to gouge the customers to make sure you don’t lose any bonuses or bennies.

    Go ahead. Continue to support corporate greed at your own expense. Just don ’t expect thinking people to back you.

    You can only eat one meal at a time. You can only sleep in one bed. You can only drive one vehicle at a time.

    That’s all working people really want. Enough to live on … but they aren’t getting it.

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    Hawthorne  over 10 years ago

    “The slackers in congress should get less than the minimum wage.”

    That would be a start. They should be forced to pay their own expenses, too. Maybe then they’d have some clue as to economic issues.

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    Hawthorne  over 10 years ago

    “So to deny a person a living wage is to say that that person is totally expendable. Is that really the kind of society you want?”

    Apparently it is. We know for a certainty that that’s what the Industrialists want.

    What they’ve given us is a propaganda system which does NOT educate.

    Our government is complicit in poisoning the food supply.

    They are happy to support the insurers in denying us appropriate medical care.

    They refuse women access to birth control, forcing them to bear children they have no resources to raise, which results in a huge low literacy, misinformed population which is easily led and exploited.

    Voilá. Slave economy.

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    Ryan Plut  over 10 years ago

    I wanted to move to UK, but the immigration laws prevent me from staying any longer than 6 months per year. That will have to do.

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    Uncle Joe Premium Member over 10 years ago

    Everyone should be paid based upon what their productive value is to the economy in general.Who determines that and how do you explain the Kardashians?Only the liberals whine about the “no jobs” MYTH.Right… the fact that they need a few thousand more workers in the shale oil operations of North Dakota proves that millions of people can get work. Why are people who are working part-time & people whose unemployment benefits long expired, not taking all of these jobs you pretend exist? What do you think of the companies that refuse to hire anyone who is unemployed? The same tired claim that anyone who is poor, deserves it.

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    Robert C. Premium Member over 10 years ago

    “The current CEO of Walmart began as aminimum wage employee.”…about 30 years ago, as a “Summer Associate” while going to school…a perfectly appropriate situation…not as a “downsized” out of work college graduate, middle aged family supporter with children to feed, house & educate, as many minimum-wage souls now employed by WM (and others) …so, irrelvant.

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    wiatr  over 10 years ago

    Auf wiedersehen.

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    Uncle Joe Premium Member over 10 years ago

    Every time the Minimum wage increased, my manager at the Restaurant where I worked for 6 years increased the prices of all items on the Menu.Did the prices go up by the same percentage as minimum wage? If so, your manager was being pretty dishonest, since the other costs of business didn’t go up. Did the prices of everything go up? If not, it’s hard to argue that the people making minimum wage were worse off.I posted this before:http://ftp.iza.org/dp1072.pdfOne estimate figured that a Big Mac would go from $3.99 to $4.67 if minimum wage was doubled. The conservative response was that the study underestimated the portion of costs that labor accounts for. The said that the price would go up to… about $5.25. Still not a doubling of price.Only a few people are seriously talking about a $15 minimum wage. Obama has suggested $10.10.

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    Uncle Joe Premium Member over 10 years ago

    The Minimum Wage increased so did the costs of everything else.I’d like to see where you get that from. Minimum wage workers are a small part of the workforce. If you want to claim that everyone’s wages will go up in unison with the minimum, you should show something to back that up.

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    Dtroutma  over 10 years ago

    A “living wage” depends on local conditions. That’s why a “federal” minimum should be determined by SMSA data from the states, and float based on local COL. That would also key it to the ability of business volumes to keep up. Which, as you don’t see Walmart in small town America, rather small business with lower volume of sales, an income as well, match the needs of the communities. The big problem here is that even state governments in most cases haven’t a clue what “small town” is any more, they only focus on the high population areas.

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    Diane Lee Premium Member over 10 years ago

    In a just society " Working Poor" would be an oxymoron.

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