No one I know who is now able to get health insurance (I’m a musician, I know a LOT of independent contractors) thinks of Obama as the Grinch who stole Christmas. This is the best thing done by the government for a dozen years. If the Republicans try to revoke the ability for independent people to purchase health insurance on a private market, there will be Hell to pay.
Well put. But I think (hope) is this will go beyond your well-deserved cynicism. It took 5 years but the brilliance that is the promise of hope & change and a new New Deal is finally starting to wear off. His fellow Dems are turning on him, the people who voted for him are turning on him, and because ACA was passed almost exactly on party lines, the Dems are getting shellacked the media is turning on both.
This isn’t vicar for the man, it’s the ideals he represents. Obama has proven that given enough time and money, the government will just squander more time and money. More and more Americans are finding stock in the Tea Party: as many [as] 42% say their views come closest to those of the average Tea Party member instead – Rasmussen, Oct 2013.
If conservatives don’t squander it, work slowly and methodically, stay on message and don’t try to hit people over the head with extreme social views, I think there’s a real chance for 2014 to open the doors for true smaller government conservatism.
Now my cynicism comes into play: we need real conservatives, not RINOs, if we’re going to truly reduce government spending. Boehner is just as bad is Reed. Those that are beholden to large lobbyists or corporations or just interested in the next election need to leave. At least liberals, for the most part, practice what they preach. I agree with the liberal pundits like Chris Matthews who say that if Republicans own the house and the white house, like they did 10 years ago, and don’t do anything to fix healthcare or the our social safety nets, then they’re worse than Obama. Doing nothing at all is worse than at least trying something.
“It’s stupid to say “Keep the government out of my Medicare” when Medicare is already 100% a government program”You misunderstand the phrase David. If I contribute to a mutual fund called AFUND and the company ACOMP handling the transaction decides to try and take some of it away it is perfectly correct for me to say “Keep ACOMP out of my AFUND”. It doesn’t matter if the government is running Medicare, it still belongs to the people who contributed to it.
Let’s start by pointing out that it is incorrect for YOU to say “your side”. Just because I point out you are incorrect in your argument of semantics does not mean I am on a ‘side’ with this issue. You speak of people needing to address the issue instead of using talking points and yet you are the one ignoring the issue and choosing to instead argue the semantics of the words they are choosing. Practice hypocrisy much?
It’s still semantics. You are using twisting the meaning of a valid point in order to use it against trolls. While I can appreciate taking a jab at trolls, there are plenty of legitimate methods of doing so without using false semantics.
It’s still semantics. You are using twisting the meaning of a valid point in order to use it against trolls. While I can appreciate taking a jab at trolls, there are plenty of legitimate methods of doing so without using false semantics.
“The sign is “stupid” because it displays such an obvious case of cognitive dissonance as to be ludirus. It is an attempt to ignore the fact that many senior citizens rely on the government for health care while the teab mantra is the government can’t do anything right.”
Really David?? You really are reaching far to try and salvage your point. These arent political stoogers trying to play your semantics game to make a point, they are simply people who want the government to quit messing with medicare. Twist it all you want, which is exactly what you are doing, but it won’t change the facts.
ConserveGov over 10 years ago
If anybody is surprised this program is a disaster the I have a bridge to sell ya.
Enoki over 10 years ago
Obama should know that only in golf can you take a “Mulligan.”
ARodney over 10 years ago
No one I know who is now able to get health insurance (I’m a musician, I know a LOT of independent contractors) thinks of Obama as the Grinch who stole Christmas. This is the best thing done by the government for a dozen years. If the Republicans try to revoke the ability for independent people to purchase health insurance on a private market, there will be Hell to pay.
Bob Smith over 10 years ago
Well put. But I think (hope) is this will go beyond your well-deserved cynicism. It took 5 years but the brilliance that is the promise of hope & change and a new New Deal is finally starting to wear off. His fellow Dems are turning on him, the people who voted for him are turning on him, and because ACA was passed almost exactly on party lines, the Dems are getting shellacked the media is turning on both.
This isn’t vicar for the man, it’s the ideals he represents. Obama has proven that given enough time and money, the government will just squander more time and money. More and more Americans are finding stock in the Tea Party: as many [as] 42% say their views come closest to those of the average Tea Party member instead – Rasmussen, Oct 2013.
If conservatives don’t squander it, work slowly and methodically, stay on message and don’t try to hit people over the head with extreme social views, I think there’s a real chance for 2014 to open the doors for true smaller government conservatism.
Now my cynicism comes into play: we need real conservatives, not RINOs, if we’re going to truly reduce government spending. Boehner is just as bad is Reed. Those that are beholden to large lobbyists or corporations or just interested in the next election need to leave. At least liberals, for the most part, practice what they preach. I agree with the liberal pundits like Chris Matthews who say that if Republicans own the house and the white house, like they did 10 years ago, and don’t do anything to fix healthcare or the our social safety nets, then they’re worse than Obama. Doing nothing at all is worse than at least trying something.
I Play One On TV over 10 years ago
Funny. Well done.
bgaul over 10 years ago
This is a play on the Harlem Globetrotter who pulled the entire basketball goal on himself.
http://keepingscore.blogs.time.com/2013/11/13/harlem-globetrotter-nearly-crushed-by-shattered-backboard/
Enoki over 10 years ago
Under Obamacare his is eligible for a government subsidized walker and a government paid for electric scooter chair…
Dtroutma over 10 years ago
Hmm, I’m reminded, thinking down the road a few years, of all the TEA party folks screaming “Keep the Government out of my Medicare!”
Dtroutma over 10 years ago
^Thanks David. It’s truly amazing the “short attention span theater” just can’t keep track of their own “Folks”.
paytonb over 10 years ago
“It’s stupid to say “Keep the government out of my Medicare” when Medicare is already 100% a government program”You misunderstand the phrase David. If I contribute to a mutual fund called AFUND and the company ACOMP handling the transaction decides to try and take some of it away it is perfectly correct for me to say “Keep ACOMP out of my AFUND”. It doesn’t matter if the government is running Medicare, it still belongs to the people who contributed to it.
paytonb over 10 years ago
Let’s start by pointing out that it is incorrect for YOU to say “your side”. Just because I point out you are incorrect in your argument of semantics does not mean I am on a ‘side’ with this issue. You speak of people needing to address the issue instead of using talking points and yet you are the one ignoring the issue and choosing to instead argue the semantics of the words they are choosing. Practice hypocrisy much?
paytonb over 10 years ago
It’s still semantics. You are using twisting the meaning of a valid point in order to use it against trolls. While I can appreciate taking a jab at trolls, there are plenty of legitimate methods of doing so without using false semantics.
paytonb over 10 years ago
It’s still semantics. You are using twisting the meaning of a valid point in order to use it against trolls. While I can appreciate taking a jab at trolls, there are plenty of legitimate methods of doing so without using false semantics.
paytonb over 10 years ago
“The sign is “stupid” because it displays such an obvious case of cognitive dissonance as to be ludirus. It is an attempt to ignore the fact that many senior citizens rely on the government for health care while the teab mantra is the government can’t do anything right.”
Really David?? You really are reaching far to try and salvage your point. These arent political stoogers trying to play your semantics game to make a point, they are simply people who want the government to quit messing with medicare. Twist it all you want, which is exactly what you are doing, but it won’t change the facts.