Is that the new empty partisan talking point? Please explain what it means, if it actually means anything.Before the ACA, I paid for health care via my employer subsidized health insurance. After the ACA, I still pay for my health care via my employer subsidized health insurance policy. If we go to a single payer system, I’d be paying for health care via government offered health insurance.
Obama killing off the way we pay for health care in order to bring about single government controlled payer is something to scream about!
Since we are #1 in costs of healthcare, 50% higher than #2, and only #28 in quality (without even covering everyone yet!), I’d say screams of joy are definitely called for if we can change that. Too bad we don’t have single payer, which would probably cut our costs by a quarter or more overnight. Here’s what Physicians for a National Health Program say:http://www.pnhp.org/facts/single-payer-system-cost
I have a hard time believing that the strategy all along was to make health care so difficult to obtain/administer that everyone would eventually see that Single Payer is the only way to go.
I don’t care. Single payer is the way to go. I cannot wait for the day that the insurance companies realize that they are no longer the 600-pound gorilla. Once in the system (which I admit is hard to accomplish), Medicare, Medicaid, and TRICARE allow me to practice, diagnose, and treat, just like in the movies. Insurance companies seem to be interested only in micro-managing my decisions, and grabbing more and more of what I earn so they can push more paper.
Insurance companies are the problem, not the solution, and that fact summarizes why, no matter the intent, Obamacare must fail. If we force people to provide MORE business to insurance companies, they will certainly not mend their toxic practices, and will indeed be emboldened to make the maze they have created even more complicated.
Heard an interview with Cheney yesterday in which he says the American healthcare system is the best and the envy of the world. Is he completely out of touch or just dillusional? Or does he think its okay under the present system for 44,000 to die of treatable conditions and 100,000 medical bankruptcies every year?
44,000 dying and 100,000 bankruptcies mean that people should be working to reform the system, not undermine and work for its failure, while providing no workable alternatives..44,000 people needlessly dying; about 14 9/11s every year; where they avenged by spending a $1 trillion killing the wrong people..See anything wrong with those priorities?
“……What part of that do you not understand!..”.The part I don’t understand is why you don’t understand that people don’t go bankrupt for the premiums they pay. They go bankrupt when they need treatment and find out what they think they had, they don’t; or it is completely inadequate to cover catastrophic illness; or they run up against annual or lifetime limits. Low premiums are false economy if it is junk insurance.
“…..What liberal data are you talking about?..”.Harvard Medical School. You could quibble about the actual number. The fact remains it is a big number..How will Obamacare fix the problem? I have said a number of times that Obamacare is a start, it is not a finish. The point is to get started with reforms. Don’t sit back hoping for failure and defending the present system, which is archaic, and disastrous for far too many.
1. The number of folks affected by this first “turnout” of the program, represent a very small percentage of Americans.
2. Those with existing plans that do NOT meet the law, must be “cancelled”, and transferred to a modified plan, which most insurance companies ARE working out, if reputable. Those “covered” by scam-artist plans and companies WILL end up better off under the ACA.
3. My own group plan has several changes relative to the ACA for 2014, and while the premiums are going up 3% this year, in the previous decade +. the increases were running 13% a year on average!!
Congress and the administration do indeed need to make some “fixes”, but it’s a matter of changing a single bad tire, not putting the whole three month old car in the crusher.
Jason Allen over 10 years ago
Is that the new empty partisan talking point? Please explain what it means, if it actually means anything.Before the ACA, I paid for health care via my employer subsidized health insurance. After the ACA, I still pay for my health care via my employer subsidized health insurance policy. If we go to a single payer system, I’d be paying for health care via government offered health insurance.
Enoki over 10 years ago
I give this cartoon a “Huh?!” The elephant in the room is how Obamanably bad Obamacare really is.
ossiningaling over 10 years ago
Oh my gosh, he got out of the treadmill!
Motivemagus over 10 years ago
Since we are #1 in costs of healthcare, 50% higher than #2, and only #28 in quality (without even covering everyone yet!), I’d say screams of joy are definitely called for if we can change that. Too bad we don’t have single payer, which would probably cut our costs by a quarter or more overnight. Here’s what Physicians for a National Health Program say:http://www.pnhp.org/facts/single-payer-system-cost
I Play One On TV over 10 years ago
I have a hard time believing that the strategy all along was to make health care so difficult to obtain/administer that everyone would eventually see that Single Payer is the only way to go.
I don’t care. Single payer is the way to go. I cannot wait for the day that the insurance companies realize that they are no longer the 600-pound gorilla. Once in the system (which I admit is hard to accomplish), Medicare, Medicaid, and TRICARE allow me to practice, diagnose, and treat, just like in the movies. Insurance companies seem to be interested only in micro-managing my decisions, and grabbing more and more of what I earn so they can push more paper.
Insurance companies are the problem, not the solution, and that fact summarizes why, no matter the intent, Obamacare must fail. If we force people to provide MORE business to insurance companies, they will certainly not mend their toxic practices, and will indeed be emboldened to make the maze they have created even more complicated.
Gypsy8 over 10 years ago
Heard an interview with Cheney yesterday in which he says the American healthcare system is the best and the envy of the world. Is he completely out of touch or just dillusional? Or does he think its okay under the present system for 44,000 to die of treatable conditions and 100,000 medical bankruptcies every year?
Gypsy8 over 10 years ago
44,000 dying and 100,000 bankruptcies mean that people should be working to reform the system, not undermine and work for its failure, while providing no workable alternatives..44,000 people needlessly dying; about 14 9/11s every year; where they avenged by spending a $1 trillion killing the wrong people..See anything wrong with those priorities?
Gypsy8 over 10 years ago
“……What part of that do you not understand!..”.The part I don’t understand is why you don’t understand that people don’t go bankrupt for the premiums they pay. They go bankrupt when they need treatment and find out what they think they had, they don’t; or it is completely inadequate to cover catastrophic illness; or they run up against annual or lifetime limits. Low premiums are false economy if it is junk insurance.
Gypsy8 over 10 years ago
Clinton was responsible for 9/11? The mind boggles!
Gypsy8 over 10 years ago
“…..What liberal data are you talking about?..”.Harvard Medical School. You could quibble about the actual number. The fact remains it is a big number..How will Obamacare fix the problem? I have said a number of times that Obamacare is a start, it is not a finish. The point is to get started with reforms. Don’t sit back hoping for failure and defending the present system, which is archaic, and disastrous for far too many.
Dtroutma over 10 years ago
1. The number of folks affected by this first “turnout” of the program, represent a very small percentage of Americans.
2. Those with existing plans that do NOT meet the law, must be “cancelled”, and transferred to a modified plan, which most insurance companies ARE working out, if reputable. Those “covered” by scam-artist plans and companies WILL end up better off under the ACA.
3. My own group plan has several changes relative to the ACA for 2014, and while the premiums are going up 3% this year, in the previous decade +. the increases were running 13% a year on average!!
Congress and the administration do indeed need to make some “fixes”, but it’s a matter of changing a single bad tire, not putting the whole three month old car in the crusher.
Gypsy8 over 10 years ago
It must have slipped Harley’s mind that a public option had initially been considered, but then rejected in the final bill.