Just last year the most black Americans ever voted in the national election. It broke the record set 4 years before that.I really don’t see a problem here, unless liberals are saying blacks aren’t smart enough to get an ID?Just another example of the patronizing attitude white liberal democrats use to tell blacks that they need somebody to hold their hand. Disgusting.
“Just last year the most black Americans ever voted in the national election. It broke the record set 4 years before that.”
Yup…absolutely true. And they turned out in droves precisely because the Republicans worked so hard to keep them away from the polls. Black people didn’t get the vote by standing hat in hand and begging Mistuh Charlie for their rights. They got the vote by organizing and fighting for it. And they have looooog memories.
Republican voter suppression, like so many other Republican “policies”, has precisely the opposite effect from what they think they are accomplishing. Trying so publicly to disenfranchise people who might not vote for you only gives them the incentive to organize and work to get out even more voters who really won’t vote for you.
We owe the Republicans a vote of gratitude for doing so much to turn out Democratic voters in the last election. We could never have engineered the massacre of the Republican candidate in the last election without their help.
“And they turned out in droves precisely because the Republicans worked so hard to keep them away from the polls.” No, they turned out in droves to vote for a black candidate. You’re entitled to your own opinion, not your own facts.
“Just last year the most black Americans ever voted in the national election”.You left out…and we must put a stop to that!
“Otherwise we’ll become completely irrelevant!” Yeah, keep trying to suppress the vote, GOP; you’ll only hasten your inevitable departure from political power.
They turned out in droves so lets cut polling hours, reduce early voting, close polling places anything to keep them at bay. And we all know that’s happening.
“The guy preventing people from voting should be dressed in a New Black Panther uniform. They are the ONLY group that is suppressing voting.”And yet not one single person who was allegedly prevented from voting by the “scary black men” bothered to contact the police and have them removed?
I still don’t get why people argue against having an ID to vote. How else are you going to prove citizenship and address. It can’t be cost. Depending on state it costs from $3 (FLA) to $29 (OREGON, but it lasts 8 yrs as opposed to 5 for most other states) with the average being around $15, so cost isn’t the real issue and it also helps raise revenue. You need a photo ID to cash checks at the local money store, to get a job or open a bank account, so it is a necessity, not a luxury. It’s just a copout by the Libs to protect their base.
ConserveGov: Over one third of Texas counties don’t even have a place to get an approved photo ID. Those that do are closed on Sundays and after working hours. The targeting of those who must work two jobs to live, who go to school, or are in nursing homes (and are disproportionately Democrat, Libertarian, or Green and thus not Republican) is obvious..Yeah, it’s a poll tax and is illegal in the US since that bald eagle ran Jim Crow off the flag pole in Bill Mauldin’s second Pullitzer.
here in the south there is a saying "The north (republicans) won the war ,but the south (democrats) won the reconstruction. The southern democrat just enslaved the newly emancipated in another form.
“It doesn’t matter who votes, it matters who counts the votes.”—Josef Stalin
Easily-tampered voting machines are way more dangerous and way more capable of throwing elections as a couple of people who vote twice. Again, if you really want to reduce the likelihood of vote fraud, you need to address the voting machines. Put out the big fires first: always a good approach.
It ain’t just photo ID folks! It IS true that prior to the Civil rights act, the “old” southern Democrats were behind “Jim Crow”, but the parties switched radically after that act, as did the views AND actions, of legislators, “left”, and “right”.
“.There has only been one political activist at the polls with a weapon in modern times.”Still selling that pathetic story, onguard? How many Republican votes were lost? Zero. In 2006, a group calling themselves “Minutemen” stood outside a polling place in Tucson & questioned voters about their ability to speak English.. One carried a 9mm pistol, another videotaped voters, claiming they were looking for illegal immigrants. The DOJ declined to prosecute the case.Google “gun at polling place”, and you’ll discover that advocates of concealed carry and open carry laws have been deliberately taking their guns to churches and schools when they vote. I’m going to go out on a limb and guess that none of them are liberals.
“Remember Jim Crow is a Democrat…”Jim Crow used to be a Dixiecrat, but he became a Republican back in the 60’s, along with Strom Thurmond, Jesse Helms and other racists.
while doing research for a city election in 2009 i found of the 70 people i know in my precinct who voted in 11/08 were 2 dead people [02/08 and 07/08] that is only 3% and i was not even looking very hard
in order to have a case you have to grab them in the act when i found a few months later that dead had voted nothing could be done
The original Jim Crow was in a song.Daddy Rice, a white man, went on the road in blackface singing and dancing. He became Jim Crow.He joined some minstrels and became somewhat famous.
“And yet, Obama won the last two Presidential election, which is (to every rwnj) irrefutable proof of massive voter fraud.”.Typical GOP logic; if our guy lost it was because of voter fraud, not because he was an inferior candidate.Keep telling yourselves that little fairy tale and you’ll just make it easier for Democrats.
Is she your only example? You’ve posted it before, but it in no way suggests “massive” voter fraud.One rigged electronic voting machine can produce far more fraudulent votes than this lady could ever dream of casting.
“way to get the liberals spinning. Of course it doesn’t take that much as they ignore reality.”.Hilarious observation from a conservative.You guys have been seriously out-voted in 5 of the last 6 presidential elections, but you say “liberals ignore reality.”You’d be funny if you weren’t so hopelessly pathetic.
“ALL Jim Crow laws were proposed and pased by DEMOCRATS.”Dixiecrats, now, almost to a man (and woman) REPUBLICANS.You guys keep spreading this obvious lie. It just makes you look so very foolish.
Several years ago, the local Republican Committee group set up a voter registration booth in the atrium of a local Baptist church on Sunday morning. Ladies all dressed in red, white, and blue costumes handing out “literature.”
dear joe none of your excuses apply both died before primary so pre voting does not apply and as to no effect what if gore had 3% more vote in fla // if the losers in my state rep and state senator districts had 3% more votes they would have won // there is a stiff penalty for robbing $50 from a 7/11 but it still is done
Rockngolfer: Dan Rice designed and used the costume we now associate with Uncle Sam. He destroyed his own career in the 1840s by speaking out against slavery – in the north.
“Do you mean the same 60’s Republicans that passed the Voting Civil Rights Act”Go learn your history, Gresch. The Republicans, in their last moment of decency, joined the majority of the Democrats who voted for the Civil Rights Act.Democrats provided far more votes for Civil Rights than Republicans.They couldn’t have passed it without the GOP’s help, but Civil Rights was & is an issue championed by liberals, not conservatives. Every southern Republican voted against Civil Rights.
“… thank a Democrat”Because, Blacks had it so good before 1964? The black middle class is larger than it was before Civil Rights, affirmative action & liberal anti-poverty programs. Blacks are still more likely to be poor, to have higher crime rates, etc. The reality is that most of those things are true of people living in poverty, regardless of race.
Unlike everything else that we use ID’s for, voting is a right, not a privilege. The US has practically no voter fraud whatsoever. This is a non-issue dressed up to hide the true motives of the people pushing it.
In an honest debate of this issue we would have to point out that the reason the Democrats want to get rid of voter i.d. laws is so that people who are here illegally can vote.If a human being isn’t resourceful enough to figure out a way to get a legal i.d., do we really want them in polls in the first place?
Don Winchester Premium Member over 10 years ago
Troll
Dtroutma over 10 years ago
^No, just accurate.
jnik23260 over 10 years ago
Hey! A ripoff of Doonesbury!
ConserveGov over 10 years ago
Just last year the most black Americans ever voted in the national election. It broke the record set 4 years before that.I really don’t see a problem here, unless liberals are saying blacks aren’t smart enough to get an ID?Just another example of the patronizing attitude white liberal democrats use to tell blacks that they need somebody to hold their hand. Disgusting.
jbenzver5 over 10 years ago
“Just last year the most black Americans ever voted in the national election. It broke the record set 4 years before that.”
Yup…absolutely true. And they turned out in droves precisely because the Republicans worked so hard to keep them away from the polls. Black people didn’t get the vote by standing hat in hand and begging Mistuh Charlie for their rights. They got the vote by organizing and fighting for it. And they have looooog memories.
Republican voter suppression, like so many other Republican “policies”, has precisely the opposite effect from what they think they are accomplishing. Trying so publicly to disenfranchise people who might not vote for you only gives them the incentive to organize and work to get out even more voters who really won’t vote for you.
We owe the Republicans a vote of gratitude for doing so much to turn out Democratic voters in the last election. We could never have engineered the massacre of the Republican candidate in the last election without their help.
Keep up the good work guys!
wizman440 Premium Member over 10 years ago
“And they turned out in droves precisely because the Republicans worked so hard to keep them away from the polls.” No, they turned out in droves to vote for a black candidate. You’re entitled to your own opinion, not your own facts.
Vermont Premium Member over 10 years ago
“Otherwise we’ll become completely irrelevant!” Yeah, keep trying to suppress the vote, GOP; you’ll only hasten your inevitable departure from political power.
Odon Premium Member over 10 years ago
They turned out in droves so lets cut polling hours, reduce early voting, close polling places anything to keep them at bay. And we all know that’s happening.
Jason Allen over 10 years ago
“The guy preventing people from voting should be dressed in a New Black Panther uniform. They are the ONLY group that is suppressing voting.”And yet not one single person who was allegedly prevented from voting by the “scary black men” bothered to contact the police and have them removed?
woodwork over 10 years ago
voter fraud? Florida/hanging chads/Bush’s kid brother asgovernor of Florida? Votor fraud…whazzat?
Absalom57 over 10 years ago
I still don’t get why people argue against having an ID to vote. How else are you going to prove citizenship and address. It can’t be cost. Depending on state it costs from $3 (FLA) to $29 (OREGON, but it lasts 8 yrs as opposed to 5 for most other states) with the average being around $15, so cost isn’t the real issue and it also helps raise revenue. You need a photo ID to cash checks at the local money store, to get a job or open a bank account, so it is a necessity, not a luxury. It’s just a copout by the Libs to protect their base.
The Yankee Clipper over 10 years ago
Hey if you had to show an I D then you could only vote once. Democrats can’t have that.
TCulberson over 10 years ago
Well said!!
hippogriff over 10 years ago
ConserveGov: Over one third of Texas counties don’t even have a place to get an approved photo ID. Those that do are closed on Sundays and after working hours. The targeting of those who must work two jobs to live, who go to school, or are in nursing homes (and are disproportionately Democrat, Libertarian, or Green and thus not Republican) is obvious..Yeah, it’s a poll tax and is illegal in the US since that bald eagle ran Jim Crow off the flag pole in Bill Mauldin’s second Pullitzer.
dahhardee over 10 years ago
here in the south there is a saying "The north (republicans) won the war ,but the south (democrats) won the reconstruction. The southern democrat just enslaved the newly emancipated in another form.
I Play One On TV over 10 years ago
“It doesn’t matter who votes, it matters who counts the votes.”—Josef Stalin
Easily-tampered voting machines are way more dangerous and way more capable of throwing elections as a couple of people who vote twice. Again, if you really want to reduce the likelihood of vote fraud, you need to address the voting machines. Put out the big fires first: always a good approach.
Dtroutma over 10 years ago
It ain’t just photo ID folks! It IS true that prior to the Civil rights act, the “old” southern Democrats were behind “Jim Crow”, but the parties switched radically after that act, as did the views AND actions, of legislators, “left”, and “right”.
pirate227 over 10 years ago
Looks like Jim Crow is part zombie.
oneoldhat over 10 years ago
my cousin in kcmo says voter fraud is a dog bites man story // people being sent to jail for voter fraud do not make the front page
Uncle Joe Premium Member over 10 years ago
“.There has only been one political activist at the polls with a weapon in modern times.”Still selling that pathetic story, onguard? How many Republican votes were lost? Zero. In 2006, a group calling themselves “Minutemen” stood outside a polling place in Tucson & questioned voters about their ability to speak English.. One carried a 9mm pistol, another videotaped voters, claiming they were looking for illegal immigrants. The DOJ declined to prosecute the case.Google “gun at polling place”, and you’ll discover that advocates of concealed carry and open carry laws have been deliberately taking their guns to churches and schools when they vote. I’m going to go out on a limb and guess that none of them are liberals.
Uncle Joe Premium Member over 10 years ago
“Remember Jim Crow is a Democrat…”Jim Crow used to be a Dixiecrat, but he became a Republican back in the 60’s, along with Strom Thurmond, Jesse Helms and other racists.
oneoldhat over 10 years ago
sorry joe you got it backwards as usual
while doing research for a city election in 2009 i found of the 70 people i know in my precinct who voted in 11/08 were 2 dead people [02/08 and 07/08] that is only 3% and i was not even looking very hard
in order to have a case you have to grab them in the act when i found a few months later that dead had voted nothing could be done
rockngolfer over 10 years ago
The original Jim Crow was in a song.Daddy Rice, a white man, went on the road in blackface singing and dancing. He became Jim Crow.He joined some minstrels and became somewhat famous.
McSpook over 10 years ago
“And yet, Obama won the last two Presidential election, which is (to every rwnj) irrefutable proof of massive voter fraud.”.Typical GOP logic; if our guy lost it was because of voter fraud, not because he was an inferior candidate.Keep telling yourselves that little fairy tale and you’ll just make it easier for Democrats.
McSpook over 10 years ago
Is she your only example? You’ve posted it before, but it in no way suggests “massive” voter fraud.One rigged electronic voting machine can produce far more fraudulent votes than this lady could ever dream of casting.
McSpook over 10 years ago
“way to get the liberals spinning. Of course it doesn’t take that much as they ignore reality.”.Hilarious observation from a conservative.You guys have been seriously out-voted in 5 of the last 6 presidential elections, but you say “liberals ignore reality.”You’d be funny if you weren’t so hopelessly pathetic.
McSpook over 10 years ago
“New Black Panther are the ONLY group that is suppressing voting.”
You misspelled “Zipi.” The character “Zippy the Pinhead” was spelled with 2 p’s, and that MUST be the character you’re channeling.
McSpook over 10 years ago
“ALL Jim Crow laws were proposed and pased by DEMOCRATS.”Dixiecrats, now, almost to a man (and woman) REPUBLICANS.You guys keep spreading this obvious lie. It just makes you look so very foolish.
McSpook over 10 years ago
“isn’t qualified or smart enough to vote.”In your (pathetically) humble opinion.
Mythreesons over 10 years ago
Several years ago, the local Republican Committee group set up a voter registration booth in the atrium of a local Baptist church on Sunday morning. Ladies all dressed in red, white, and blue costumes handing out “literature.”
McSpook over 10 years ago
Yeah, because only Republicans have any kind of work ethic. Absolutely no Democrat works for a living.What an ignorant and repulsive point of view
oneoldhat over 10 years ago
dear joe none of your excuses apply both died before primary so pre voting does not apply and as to no effect what if gore had 3% more vote in fla // if the losers in my state rep and state senator districts had 3% more votes they would have won // there is a stiff penalty for robbing $50 from a 7/11 but it still is done
hippogriff over 10 years ago
Rockngolfer: Dan Rice designed and used the costume we now associate with Uncle Sam. He destroyed his own career in the 1840s by speaking out against slavery – in the north.
Jason Allen over 10 years ago
If the woman knew there was a homeless man living near them, why didn’t she offer him the chores?
Uncle Joe Premium Member over 10 years ago
“Do you mean the same 60’s Republicans that passed the Voting Civil Rights Act”Go learn your history, Gresch. The Republicans, in their last moment of decency, joined the majority of the Democrats who voted for the Civil Rights Act.Democrats provided far more votes for Civil Rights than Republicans.They couldn’t have passed it without the GOP’s help, but Civil Rights was & is an issue championed by liberals, not conservatives. Every southern Republican voted against Civil Rights.
Uncle Joe Premium Member over 10 years ago
“… thank a Democrat”Because, Blacks had it so good before 1964? The black middle class is larger than it was before Civil Rights, affirmative action & liberal anti-poverty programs. Blacks are still more likely to be poor, to have higher crime rates, etc. The reality is that most of those things are true of people living in poverty, regardless of race.
William Bednar Premium Member over 10 years ago
The Tolls are out in force today!
charliekane over 10 years ago
You got it Gresch.
That is obviously why so many Republicans were featured speakers at the commemoration of the March on Washington the other day.
charliekane over 10 years ago
By the way, G, when your head clears, check out the voting information in the following article and report back to us on the the trends you detect.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1964#By_party
charliekane over 10 years ago
You also might check into what became of the southern “Democrat”. Dick Nixon had the answer, iff’n you don’t.
charliekane over 10 years ago
None so blind as he who will not see.
Region, not politics, bro.
charliekane over 10 years ago
G, actually I’m quoting Ray Stevens.
But as my grandson might say, with regard to the conservative unreality in which you appear to live:
Those certainly are not waffles!
budrocket1 over 10 years ago
Unlike everything else that we use ID’s for, voting is a right, not a privilege. The US has practically no voter fraud whatsoever. This is a non-issue dressed up to hide the true motives of the people pushing it.
oneoldhat over 10 years ago
according to budrocket1 3%+ is practically no voter fraud /// question at what level does it become important?
Brutatowski over 10 years ago
In an honest debate of this issue we would have to point out that the reason the Democrats want to get rid of voter i.d. laws is so that people who are here illegally can vote.If a human being isn’t resourceful enough to figure out a way to get a legal i.d., do we really want them in polls in the first place?
gileshead over 10 years ago
What does breaking records have to do with restricting voting in upcoming elections. The premise the restricting States use is alarming.