Sorry, we did not go to war with Libya. There were no US soldiers present and no occupying US forces.And are you saying we SHOULD or SHOULD NOT invade Syria? Or are you just waiting on a decision so you can criticize Obama either way?
So, President NotSuffering, what would YOU do? Provide only air cover, as in Libya? Ask Congress for a declaration of war? Whose side do you take—genocidal Assad’s, or Saudi/Qatari/Al-Qaeda? Do we go back to Black Sites, Rendition, Torture/Enhanced Interrogation? Should we monitor all internet and phone traffic? How do we know we’ve “won”? And do we owe them “nation-building” once we destroy what’s left of their infrastructure? How can we ever get out once in? Do we use a private vigilante army to do the work our present military is legally restricted from doing? Maybe some no-bid contracts to Halliburton (based in Dubai to avoid taxes) will turn the tide. Do we institute a draft? Remember that our all-volunteer service is worn out from multiple worthless tours in those other wars that continue whether we stay or not, and that the VA is years behind on legitimate medical claims. And if you want war, you’ll either need to raise taxes or borrow, or both.
Please enlighten us. Inquiring minds want to know.
This is the exact kind of idiocy that makes me question civil involvement in politics, Syria has had WMDs for 40 years, literally before Saddam Hussain came to power.
This was one of the first concerns when the Syrian revolution turned south was trying to contain the large store of chemical weapons
Jumping from the totally illegal invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq, with thousands of deaths on our side, and wounded, and hundreds of thousands of dead civilians, to accuse Obama (more clearly using Congressional authorization “granted” to “W”) of “impeachable” for supporting NATO operations with only air support, with no casualties, just like Kosovo under Clinton, requires total idiocy.
Reich-wing chickenhawks have truly become sickening.
And yes, MIchael, as inopportune as Obama’s “red line” statement may have been, the “suspect” nature of the chemical attacks, especially the first one, is an obvious propaganda ploy, but whose? Remember when Carter couldn’t resolve Iran, because they refused to negotiate, then Reagan steps in and five minutes later they announce the release of the hostages- to be followed by the Iran-Contra fiasco that WAS impeachable! Nah, there wasn’t anything “suspect” there at all!!
Gee if the Saudis are involved, shouldn’t we send their business partners to talk to them?-I’m sure Fox “news” viewers have no idea who I’m talking about.
‘Saddam’s WMD’s have been used by Syria. No liberals need to apologize for being wrong.’-We invaded Iraq because of Saddam’s nuclear weapons program, which did not exist. -If you believe that Saddam moved all chemical weapons out of Iraq without leaving a trace of the program behind, you’re not a really skeptical person.-Of course Fox “news” viewers still believe there was a nucular weapons program in Iraq.-And they believe in widespread undetected voter fraud.-And job creators.-But not evolution.
Sorry, Fourcrows, but when Japan bombed Pearl Harbor, we considered it an act of war." nice apology. you might also consider that the USA had a stranglehold/blockade on Japan’s oil supply.I think you’ll find that an embargo is also an act of war. and that stranglehold on japans oil PRECEEDED the bombing of pearl harbor.tell me, how do you suffer yourself? maybe that accounts for your hate filled posts.
Dtroutma over 10 years ago
Yes, the symbol of U.S. patience, and altruism!
Fourcrows over 10 years ago
Sorry, we did not go to war with Libya. There were no US soldiers present and no occupying US forces.And are you saying we SHOULD or SHOULD NOT invade Syria? Or are you just waiting on a decision so you can criticize Obama either way?
I Play One On TV over 10 years ago
So, President NotSuffering, what would YOU do? Provide only air cover, as in Libya? Ask Congress for a declaration of war? Whose side do you take—genocidal Assad’s, or Saudi/Qatari/Al-Qaeda? Do we go back to Black Sites, Rendition, Torture/Enhanced Interrogation? Should we monitor all internet and phone traffic? How do we know we’ve “won”? And do we owe them “nation-building” once we destroy what’s left of their infrastructure? How can we ever get out once in? Do we use a private vigilante army to do the work our present military is legally restricted from doing? Maybe some no-bid contracts to Halliburton (based in Dubai to avoid taxes) will turn the tide. Do we institute a draft? Remember that our all-volunteer service is worn out from multiple worthless tours in those other wars that continue whether we stay or not, and that the VA is years behind on legitimate medical claims. And if you want war, you’ll either need to raise taxes or borrow, or both.
Please enlighten us. Inquiring minds want to know.
Quipss over 10 years ago
This is the exact kind of idiocy that makes me question civil involvement in politics, Syria has had WMDs for 40 years, literally before Saddam Hussain came to power.
This was one of the first concerns when the Syrian revolution turned south was trying to contain the large store of chemical weapons
braindead Premium Member over 10 years ago
Our ChickenHawk ‘leaders’ who took us into Iraq will not be appearing in that space.
Dtroutma over 10 years ago
Jumping from the totally illegal invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq, with thousands of deaths on our side, and wounded, and hundreds of thousands of dead civilians, to accuse Obama (more clearly using Congressional authorization “granted” to “W”) of “impeachable” for supporting NATO operations with only air support, with no casualties, just like Kosovo under Clinton, requires total idiocy.
Reich-wing chickenhawks have truly become sickening.
And yes, MIchael, as inopportune as Obama’s “red line” statement may have been, the “suspect” nature of the chemical attacks, especially the first one, is an obvious propaganda ploy, but whose? Remember when Carter couldn’t resolve Iran, because they refused to negotiate, then Reagan steps in and five minutes later they announce the release of the hostages- to be followed by the Iran-Contra fiasco that WAS impeachable! Nah, there wasn’t anything “suspect” there at all!!
braindead Premium Member over 10 years ago
Gee if the Saudis are involved, shouldn’t we send their business partners to talk to them?-I’m sure Fox “news” viewers have no idea who I’m talking about.
braindead Premium Member over 10 years ago
‘Saddam’s WMD’s have been used by Syria. No liberals need to apologize for being wrong.’-We invaded Iraq because of Saddam’s nuclear weapons program, which did not exist. -If you believe that Saddam moved all chemical weapons out of Iraq without leaving a trace of the program behind, you’re not a really skeptical person.-Of course Fox “news” viewers still believe there was a nucular weapons program in Iraq.-And they believe in widespread undetected voter fraud.-And job creators.-But not evolution.
griffthegreat over 10 years ago
Wars should not be started or advocated by those who have not been shot at.
Dtroutma over 10 years ago
^Agree, Griff, and it is so obvious that chickenhawks, and drumbeaters here, have not.
dannysixpack over 10 years ago
NotSufferingFoolsAtAll said, 1 day ago
“@Fourcrows
Sorry, Fourcrows, but when Japan bombed Pearl Harbor, we considered it an act of war." nice apology. you might also consider that the USA had a stranglehold/blockade on Japan’s oil supply.I think you’ll find that an embargo is also an act of war. and that stranglehold on japans oil PRECEEDED the bombing of pearl harbor.tell me, how do you suffer yourself? maybe that accounts for your hate filled posts.