Matt Wuerker for August 29, 2013

Read Dana Priest’s book on the subject.

This must be the “Other Wing” of the White House.

he forgot to add all the corporations that have you personal data, most of which they have supplied to their puppet, the government. everytime you shop, everything you buy, everytime you open a site, it is recorded and shared with whomever will give them the money. why do you think the federal budget is so big, the military industrial complex that is why.

and it matters not which party is in power they all represent the same constituancy, MONEY.

is NCIS somewhere around the back?

The NSA was founded November 4, 1952. This has been building for a long time. Eisenhower warned us (but evidently was involved with it)…

Yeah right that happened to me, a Huey hoovered over my house until I coughed up my Social Security number.

I don’t see the Department of Redundancy Department, or the all-important Department of Failure.

Thank you for the list. As an aside, it is interesting to note that the entire spectrum is represented, from liberal (Schumer, Reid) to hard-right conservative (Miller, Lieberman, Hollings). You just don’t see that range of viewpoints from the Republicans. No specific point, just an observation.

I do not believe that a declaration of war was ever approved by Congress. I think there was a general resolution granting the White House leeway to proceed as it saw fit, but evidently it had the same effect.

I do not consider anyone who voted for the “police action” (shades of Viet Nam) to be a criminal. Misinformed, and maybe intentionally so, but not criminal. On the other hand, rendition, torture, black sites, Blackwater, KBR and Halliburton…..those either bordered on illegality or crossed the line. I don’t believe Congress was asked to vote on those. But all who voted for the PATRIOT act, its renewal, and NDAA should be ashamed of themselves. And voted out of office.

You can’t protect your freedom by taking away freedoms.

Except the government never connects the dots… They just collect them like urine samples…

“Pres. Obama also became a war criminal when he protects Bush, Cheney and all the others.”

Unfortunate, but true. One of the first Hopes for Change that didn’t materialize.

Onguard, Republicans who voted AGAINST the war? oh, right, nobody.

Unmitigated HOGWASH!! In order to order anything off of the internet, you must provide your credit (or debit) information, and that leads to all of your information, regardless of just what that information is. And if you also believe the corporate “Use our secured site” then you are an even bigger idiot than you sometimes appear to be on this site!!

And if you wish to avoid such a situation then you must:(a) Be self employed, perhaps making something that you always sell for cash only.(b) Always deal only in cash (no banks).© Never hold any kind of even a local government card of any kind (so you can not legally drive, as you would not even have a drivers license).(d) Do not even use electricity, as you would have to give your local electric utility your information, and of course that means not having a computer, let alone the internet.Basically what this would mean is living like some kind of a miserable hermit off alone in the woods somewhere. You would be miserable, but living in total freedom from the corporations and the government!!

Obviously, neither you nor I can, or have done this,as we both use our computers and the internet to communicate our opinions on this site. So, live with the corporate interests and the government having all that information, as do I (willingly, I might add)!!

Every one of those items that you mentioned, can well be obtained from just the information that I gave. When I was in school an instructor in history mentioned that he could obtain all of the information that you state here, and even more, by only knowing your social security number (and if you think that number is sacred, then it is you that are living in fantasy land). He then asked if anyone in the class was brave enough to give him their number (which he stated he could easily obtain from any of us anyway), he also stated that any such information he would obtain would remain just between the individual giving him the social security number and himself. All he wanted was conformation that he could indeed get the correct information. Someone in class then gave his social security number to the instructor. The next class (the same night the next week) the instructor then handed the individual a packet of information, which the individual (it was not me, by the way) then took outside of the classroom, and returned with his face drained of color, and stated that there was some information in the packet that even he was not aware of!!

By the way, this had to have happened before the last time I took classes in 1982. So I would think that such information gathering has greatly improved in the last 30 years or so!! But, as I fully support my government (even when I disagree with some of its policies like the last administration of GW Bush), and have no plans on becoming anything but a retired aerospace worker, that has always fully supported my government, I do not expect that the NSA is going to take a whole lot of interest in me anyway!!

Thanks, Onguard; I did know about them, but knew I could count on my most persistant troll to list them so folks would recall who Cheney and Bush labeled as traitors not just to America, but in a more dastardly act, the RNC!!

Don’t see the biggest collector…google

Why vote for Republicans and Democrats? You get what you deserve.