A commentator on tv says we should use cruise missiles to take out military airports and SAM sites. I agree. Despite Mr. Putin and Iran wanting to use Syria as the new “East Germany”, the USA, Europe, and the Middle East Emirates are long overdue in taking some kind of action to suppress Assad’s actions against his own people.I just wonder how long it will be before we have to make a similar decision about Egypt.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8-BI89mb9ARespectfully,C.
I’m willing to bet that there will be some kind of military action by the US and others in the next couple of weeks. And I’m willing to bet it won’t make a lot of difference.
Logically if we ramp up another military action, it might help revoke the “Sequester process”, that’s due to downsize the military. Which means less dollars for the industrial complex that supports the military.
I agree that it is good to call Obama out on this – he made a statement he has not been able to back up, and it is seriously hurting his reputation and (by extension) our country’s. But the question is, what should he do? Invade and give Muslim extremists more fuel for their hatred? Send more weapons into that hands of those who will turn around and be just as cruel as Assad towards non-Muslims and Muslims who follow the wrong Imam or tradition? Send a “Death Squad” of SEALs to take Assad out and leave the chaos of rebuilding to the Syrians? I don’t know the answer myself, but it does seem that we at least finally learned not to dive in head first into a Middle Eastern conflict.
Of course, an alternative solution would be to do nothing. Sheath the sword, pack the military equipment, and save billions of dollars for infrastructure repair. Syria can go to hell on its own without our help or treasure.
Some Rebublicans say “intervene, arm the rebels, set up no fly zone; Obama is weak”. Other Republicans say “It’s none of our business; don’t US money overseas, unconstitutional; Obama is aggressive”. The rest have no idea.Republicans are clueless. They have no credibility in foreign affairs. They need to restrict their efforts to voter suppression in North Carolina.
Christians In Action are already there, in an advisory role only (LOL). Looks like the red line has been responded to in the harshest manner possible. Sending in the spooks without regard to any conventions.
@ – Uncle Joe – If Europe and the middle east alliance are willing to intervene, then I feel the USA would be negligent to not provide intelligence, satellite info, and air support for them. However, without commitment from a significant number of other nations, the US should as Mr/Ms Wells says, stay the hell out. If the world can form the same kind of coalition as the one that drove Saddam out Kuwait, despite the very powerful military that Uncle Joe rightly identifies, not only would the gov’t have to concede, but some form of friendship/alliance could be built from the effort.Sadly, once Assad’s gov’t does fall, it doesn’t mean this civil war will end, and it may give terrorists access to weapons like the gas just used.There is no good solutions, there are only less bad ones.My total respect to Loy Wells and Uncle Joe as I want desperately to agree with them. Sadly,C.
On one side we have Assad and his regime, partner with Iran, on the other side the rebels, the majority of those are radical islamist, either muslim brotherhood or Al Qaeda. Reports that the moderates muslims have pulled out of the rebels faction because of the over whelming control by the radicals. There is no one to support. Both sides are evil. It is even possible and very likely that the radical muslims used the gas in order to blame Assad and bring in the gullible West on their side.
“Conventional” weapons shed blood in large quantities, along with other bodily fluids and solids, nerve agents do NOT! Having observed both, “conventional weapons” are far more horrible with what they do to humans and other living things.
The flap over chemical agents, especially nerve agents, is far overblown. BTW, there ARE chemical weapons far worse than nerve agents, napalm and white phosphorous, being just two, mustard agent is also pretty miserable stuff.
Clearly there are no good alternatives here. Start a war like the two we just got out of even if we had International agreement. Supply arms to what could easily be militant Muslim rebels who would turn against us. The deaths are horrible but cynically it happens all over the world everyday. How many North Koreans have starved to death in the last several years? How many Russians have been rotting in gulags over the years? How many children starve to death in unpronounceable African countries? How about the thousands of casualties in the Mexican drug wars? I would support stopping it all but you have to have a credible way of doing it.
chazandru over 10 years ago
A commentator on tv says we should use cruise missiles to take out military airports and SAM sites. I agree. Despite Mr. Putin and Iran wanting to use Syria as the new “East Germany”, the USA, Europe, and the Middle East Emirates are long overdue in taking some kind of action to suppress Assad’s actions against his own people.I just wonder how long it will be before we have to make a similar decision about Egypt.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8-BI89mb9ARespectfully,C.
I Play One On TV over 10 years ago
He backed himself into a corner with the “Red Line” statement. He (or one of his advisors) should have seen that coming.
woodwork over 10 years ago
Viet Nam, Grenada (sp) all the other places we are that noneof us know about?
woodwork over 10 years ago
guess I should have said we are and have been that nobodyknows or knew about
lonecat over 10 years ago
I’m willing to bet that there will be some kind of military action by the US and others in the next couple of weeks. And I’m willing to bet it won’t make a lot of difference.
wbezemek over 10 years ago
Logically if we ramp up another military action, it might help revoke the “Sequester process”, that’s due to downsize the military. Which means less dollars for the industrial complex that supports the military.
Fourcrows over 10 years ago
I agree that it is good to call Obama out on this – he made a statement he has not been able to back up, and it is seriously hurting his reputation and (by extension) our country’s. But the question is, what should he do? Invade and give Muslim extremists more fuel for their hatred? Send more weapons into that hands of those who will turn around and be just as cruel as Assad towards non-Muslims and Muslims who follow the wrong Imam or tradition? Send a “Death Squad” of SEALs to take Assad out and leave the chaos of rebuilding to the Syrians? I don’t know the answer myself, but it does seem that we at least finally learned not to dive in head first into a Middle Eastern conflict.
Enoki over 10 years ago
Alternate caption: Clean up on aisle three!
ennui_rudy over 10 years ago
Of course, an alternative solution would be to do nothing. Sheath the sword, pack the military equipment, and save billions of dollars for infrastructure repair. Syria can go to hell on its own without our help or treasure.
d_legendary1 over 10 years ago
Seems like the cons here never met a conflict they didn’t like.
corzak over 10 years ago
Some Rebublicans say “intervene, arm the rebels, set up no fly zone; Obama is weak”. Other Republicans say “It’s none of our business; don’t US money overseas, unconstitutional; Obama is aggressive”. The rest have no idea.Republicans are clueless. They have no credibility in foreign affairs. They need to restrict their efforts to voter suppression in North Carolina.
pirate227 over 10 years ago
Let’s add some American blood to it so cons will have something else to attack POTUS…
Subversive over 10 years ago
Christians In Action are already there, in an advisory role only (LOL). Looks like the red line has been responded to in the harshest manner possible. Sending in the spooks without regard to any conventions.
chazandru over 10 years ago
@ – Uncle Joe – If Europe and the middle east alliance are willing to intervene, then I feel the USA would be negligent to not provide intelligence, satellite info, and air support for them. However, without commitment from a significant number of other nations, the US should as Mr/Ms Wells says, stay the hell out. If the world can form the same kind of coalition as the one that drove Saddam out Kuwait, despite the very powerful military that Uncle Joe rightly identifies, not only would the gov’t have to concede, but some form of friendship/alliance could be built from the effort.Sadly, once Assad’s gov’t does fall, it doesn’t mean this civil war will end, and it may give terrorists access to weapons like the gas just used.There is no good solutions, there are only less bad ones.My total respect to Loy Wells and Uncle Joe as I want desperately to agree with them. Sadly,C.
STASH Premium Member over 10 years ago
On one side we have Assad and his regime, partner with Iran, on the other side the rebels, the majority of those are radical islamist, either muslim brotherhood or Al Qaeda. Reports that the moderates muslims have pulled out of the rebels faction because of the over whelming control by the radicals. There is no one to support. Both sides are evil. It is even possible and very likely that the radical muslims used the gas in order to blame Assad and bring in the gullible West on their side.
Dtroutma over 10 years ago
“Conventional” weapons shed blood in large quantities, along with other bodily fluids and solids, nerve agents do NOT! Having observed both, “conventional weapons” are far more horrible with what they do to humans and other living things.
The flap over chemical agents, especially nerve agents, is far overblown. BTW, there ARE chemical weapons far worse than nerve agents, napalm and white phosphorous, being just two, mustard agent is also pretty miserable stuff.
Theodore E. Lind Premium Member over 10 years ago
Clearly there are no good alternatives here. Start a war like the two we just got out of even if we had International agreement. Supply arms to what could easily be militant Muslim rebels who would turn against us. The deaths are horrible but cynically it happens all over the world everyday. How many North Koreans have starved to death in the last several years? How many Russians have been rotting in gulags over the years? How many children starve to death in unpronounceable African countries? How about the thousands of casualties in the Mexican drug wars? I would support stopping it all but you have to have a credible way of doing it.
oneoldhat over 10 years ago
there is an unholy alliance of neocons and internationalist liberals who want the USA to police the world
lonecat over 10 years ago
Bombs and bullets don’t kill people….