Jeff Danziger for July 29, 2013

Even Democrats are starting to not like Obamacare, and MORE people are disapproving of it everyday!

PianoGuy, maybe you can explain the fine points of the Republicans alternative plan to improve health care. -Or is it that Republicans don’t want any improvements to health care?

Radish, the answer to your question is contained in ConserveGov’s comment.

And who decides which lawsuits are un-needed? For a conservative, you sure do want to hand a lot of power over to the government…

@ braindead08 Medical malpractice tort reform has done nothing to lower the costs of healthcare in Texas. http://www.statesman.com/news/news/local/new-study-tort-reform-has-not-reduced-health-care-/nRpcp/It’s a smoke and mirror trick.

How is Massachusetts doing with Romneycare, same thing.

There seem to be a lot of ignoramuses on the list today.1. No one is “forcing” Obamacare on you.2. It works rather well; in New York it was found that people who would otherwise have had to buy insurance had their costs cut in HALF.3. Democrats are fine with it — as far as it goes. 4. The problem with it from the Democratic point of view is not what it does, but what it doesn’t: it doesn’t go far enough, the government is still forbidden to negotiate using its size (thanks to the GOP under Bush — look it up — so much for free trade) and it does not address the real problem of insurance companies.5. It is a REPUBLICAN plan, you ninnies! What we really need, what would cut our costs in HALF, is single-payer! We have the most expensive healthcare in the world by far (50% more than #2), but are ranked at #37 in the world for quality.Why?“the United States, unique among industrialized nations, does not generally regulate or intervene in medical pricing, aside from setting payment rates for Medicare and Medicaid, the government programs for older people and the poor.” (http://www.denverpost.com/nationworld/ci_23370857/health-care-costs-more-u-s-than-anywhere)Ranking: http://www.businessinsider.com/best-healthcare-systems-in-the-world-2012-6?op=1

This cartoon is number four (that I know of) on the theme. Last week there was one with a Republican shouting “Train Wreck!” while the train was in the station; a second with a Republican diverting the train onto a short side track where it would crash; and a third showing Republicans removing track as the train approached. Do cartoonists read each other? Or are they independently coming up with different approaches to the same idea?

There are so many comments that I would like to reply to today that I will not respond to any except to say that those who have insurance now that couldn’t get it before because of pre-existing conditions and that 80% of your insurance premiums must go towards health care warrant having the ACA.

I pay for my health insurance through a private carrier, just like I do for my car, home and life insurance.I know for a fact that my rates are about to go way up to pay for others.I also know that the time it will take to actually see a doctor will double, if not triple.So yes Dave, that does affect me.To sum things up: You were wrong and wrong.

One data point does not a pattern make. Please offer some actual references.No, I am citing facts — so far, you are the only one providing “gas and hot air.”

Sorry to disappoint you, but I am middle class and so is almost everybody I know. They either have health insurance through their work or purchase it on their own. Obamacare will do nothing for them except increase their premiums and decrease their quality of care.THAT is why a majority of Americans are against Obama(non)Care.

correct ConserveGov101.00 is deducted monthly from my social security, another 102 from my checking account for secondary as a retiree. And it takes 8 calls to find a doc who will take Medicare and 3 weeks for an appointment. Some yearly exams are no longer covered under Medicare so I have to wait two years

All I know is, I am perfectly happy with my present health care plan and service. I do not need the government to tell me what I should buy or even that I must buy any at all. I cannot believe so many people are OK with their government making them buy a retail product. Until the government takes it over, health care insurance is nothing more than a retail product. I’m not OK with that. It’s bad enough they made me pay into Social Security and then told me they were only going to pay me half because I got another job that paid a pension. That pension, by the way, was also my own money but they did not care. It was a pension so I still got cut in half. Now they want to control my health care! No way. The shaft keeps getting longer. The best way to stop all this madness is at the polls. The last I heard our government was still supposed to be By The People, For The People. If they want to fix the health care system, let them get the CEOs from some of the biggest hospitals and the CEOs of the biggest health care insurance companies in a joint conference and talk it out. Let the people actually involved make the decision on how to fix their own system. Our politicians do not have a clue. Why should they? They have their own system that is WAY better than anything we could ever get.

Oh, please! You’re talking about Republicans not taking responsibility! Really? While the DEMOCRAT administration is ENCOURAGING more and MORE people sign up for food stamps!?!? Is THAT the kind of free-loading you’re talking about??? This is only the tip of the iceburg! Oh, and the source comes from CNN!http://money.cnn.com/2012/06/25/news/economy/food-stamps-ads/index.htm

Let’s see… the US Gov;t has shown it’s ineptitude in medical issues with Medicare: started1965 project to cost $9Bn in 1990, ACTUAL is $67Bn; No Child LEft Behind… the H.S. graduation rate was 70% when it was passed, and still 70%, oh it was 70% in 1967 when I graduated from H.S.; Ethanol is supposed to save the air from emissions, look at the price of corn, and the water shortages that have occured. And Obama’s green jobs program…

No Thank You…. the Gov’t cannot do this either.See : http://www.ijreview.com/2013/01/33536-biggest-government-failures-of-the-last-century/12/

Terrorists with trunks.

I don’t get it – he makes it look like they’re doing something they should be doing…? :)

talking about domestic terrorism out to ruin America.If they win by cheating that will be so bad. we will have a police state. Obama is too conservative for our own good.

If there is any consistency to your posts, it would be “being wrong”. If you’re going to refer to Baucus’ “train wreck” quote erroneously again, read this first so you can stop yourself from being such a moron: http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2013/05/24/the_secret_history_of_max_baucus_s_train_wreck_quote.html

Apocryphal. You make stuff up, badly, every time you’re cornered.

Okay, tigger, let’s take it one at a time. 1. It is not being forced on all Americans. If you have insurance, you don’t have to get it. Better?2. The reason the GOP did not vote for it is because of politics. The Heritage Foundation — hardly a liberal bastion! — praised it when it was still Romney’s, as did numerous Republicans. It was only when Obama took it up because it was THE ONLY THING HE COULD GET PASSED. See here: http://thinkprogress.org/health/2012/04/12/463097/romneycare-6/3. Obama supported single payer, but felt it was necessary to work with political realities. For you to say he should have “worked with Republicans” simply ignores those political realities that the Congress you refer to had a Republican minority dedicated publicly to destroying Obama and obstructing anything he proposed. And they did it. Proof: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/jul/16/barack-obama/obama-statements-single-payer-have-changed-bit/4. Of course I can blame the Republicans — they came up with the Obamacare proposal, then voted against it, and have done NOTHING WHATSOEVER to try and improve healthcare in this country. What they have done is cut benefits and reduce the power of the government to negotiate for better pharmaceutical prices (under Bush, GOP-led).

Excellent post, single. Again.-It should be obvious by now that the Republican party, as led by Mitch McConnell, John Boehner, Grover Norquist, Rush Limbaugh, and Karl Rove, does not want our health care system to be improved.