Oh, please. Fox lied about Benghazi (there wasn’t a scandal), lied about the IRS (all groups were targeted, not just conservative ones), and lied about Solyndra. And they never ran corrections on any of them when they were proved false. Why should we trust them on a literally unbelievable story like this, when no evidence is produced?
“Then some coward challenges him to a fight then shoots him out of fear because he can’t fight.”
We passed Castle Doctrine and Stand Your Grounds to protect ourselves from people who want to fight. It’s not just that we don’t want to be beat up and hospitalized. It’s that we cannot possibly know your real intentions. You don’t want to get shot? Keep your $#@ hands to yourself.
Very true. I think most of the liberal media is hoping there are riots in Florida when Zimmerman is acquitted. They might just get their wish. Stay away from Miami and Jacksonville during the verdict.
The worst racists I used to know would go out looking for fist fights in the 80s and early 90s before more people carried guns. Guys would come in Monday, faces swollen, having to drink Ensure, ready to go again next week.
The left doesn’t have a monopoly on that. Just sayin’. @ David:I don’t trust that website. First, their name belies their true intent: to smear Fox. Second, I backtracked the “median wage loss” or whatever article they link to its original source Here, and one thing became patently clear: There’s truth, lies, and statistics.Fox is saying that median net worth dropped between 2007 and 2010. This is factually accurate, given the data they have. The data only picks out data points. The argument that the loss occurred only between 2007 and 2008 is preposterous; there are only specific points in time they do the measuring. 2007 and 2010. There is no line graph anywhere in the mix, there is no measurement for 2008 or 2009. So that website (foxnewslies) is coming up with their own “facts” (aka “lying”). That report has no factual information in it that proves WHEN between 2007 and 2010 the loss happened, only that it happened when comparing 2007 data against 2010 data.So … what does this tell us? It tells us that both Fox and this foxnewslies website are picking information out of statistics to tell the truth. The only possible “lie” that is being told is that Fox is blaming Obama for the entire loss. But to hold him harmless in this whole issue is nonsense. After all, he had it for 2 of those 4, and the recession didn’t kick off in earnest until middle of 2008, late 2008. That means if you follow basic logic, he had more time for 2009 to 2010 to follow it downward. Is he to blame for that? Very unlikely. Could have have done more to mitigate the loss? Absolutely. Trust, but verify. C’mon David, you’re smarter than this.
Two of my closest friends in high school identified themselves as “Mexican”, even though one’s family had lived in the same area that BECAME the U.S. for eight generations, long before the U.S. existed. The other only traced his “Mexican” ancestry back four generations.
Bob, with the eight generations identified more with his Mayan ancestry, NOT that which came from Spain. THAT IS a “racial”, not merely “ethnic” identity. I met both at our 40th high school reunion, Bob was a neurosurgeon, Eddie had been a firefighter and forester with the state of California. Neither though either “Hispanic”, nor “Latino”, a valid identifier to them.
While my ancestry is Germanic (Caucasian) and Cherokee (non-white), but I identify as an American human.(No hyphenation)
I actually sift through most articles and draw my own conclusions; I don’t feel that politifact is truly nonpartisan. Everyone has an agenda. But, I appreciate the compliment and back to you as well. I wish more posters on here were civil.
Wraithkin almost 11 years ago
Before we go any further, where’s the evidence of this accusation?
Harrison_Bergeron almost 11 years ago
Complete and utter nonsense.
ARodney almost 11 years ago
Oh, please. Fox lied about Benghazi (there wasn’t a scandal), lied about the IRS (all groups were targeted, not just conservative ones), and lied about Solyndra. And they never ran corrections on any of them when they were proved false. Why should we trust them on a literally unbelievable story like this, when no evidence is produced?
pdchapin almost 11 years ago
Dear Tigger.
Black is a race. Hispanic is an ethnic group. According to the Bureau of the Census, 49% of all Hispanics self-identify as white.
I Quit almost 11 years ago
“Then some coward challenges him to a fight then shoots him out of fear because he can’t fight.”
We passed Castle Doctrine and Stand Your Grounds to protect ourselves from people who want to fight. It’s not just that we don’t want to be beat up and hospitalized. It’s that we cannot possibly know your real intentions. You don’t want to get shot? Keep your $#@ hands to yourself.
I Quit almost 11 years ago
And let’s not forget Doctor/Senator Frist fanning the flames with Terri Schiavo.
ConserveGov almost 11 years ago
Very true. I think most of the liberal media is hoping there are riots in Florida when Zimmerman is acquitted. They might just get their wish. Stay away from Miami and Jacksonville during the verdict.
Btw, those track suits are hilarious.
rockngolfer almost 11 years ago
The worst racists I used to know would go out looking for fist fights in the 80s and early 90s before more people carried guns. Guys would come in Monday, faces swollen, having to drink Ensure, ready to go again next week.
Wraithkin almost 11 years ago
The left doesn’t have a monopoly on that. Just sayin’. @ David:I don’t trust that website. First, their name belies their true intent: to smear Fox. Second, I backtracked the “median wage loss” or whatever article they link to its original source Here, and one thing became patently clear: There’s truth, lies, and statistics.Fox is saying that median net worth dropped between 2007 and 2010. This is factually accurate, given the data they have. The data only picks out data points. The argument that the loss occurred only between 2007 and 2008 is preposterous; there are only specific points in time they do the measuring. 2007 and 2010. There is no line graph anywhere in the mix, there is no measurement for 2008 or 2009. So that website (foxnewslies) is coming up with their own “facts” (aka “lying”). That report has no factual information in it that proves WHEN between 2007 and 2010 the loss happened, only that it happened when comparing 2007 data against 2010 data.So … what does this tell us? It tells us that both Fox and this foxnewslies website are picking information out of statistics to tell the truth. The only possible “lie” that is being told is that Fox is blaming Obama for the entire loss. But to hold him harmless in this whole issue is nonsense. After all, he had it for 2 of those 4, and the recession didn’t kick off in earnest until middle of 2008, late 2008. That means if you follow basic logic, he had more time for 2009 to 2010 to follow it downward. Is he to blame for that? Very unlikely. Could have have done more to mitigate the loss? Absolutely. Trust, but verify. C’mon David, you’re smarter than this.
Dtroutma almost 11 years ago
Two of my closest friends in high school identified themselves as “Mexican”, even though one’s family had lived in the same area that BECAME the U.S. for eight generations, long before the U.S. existed. The other only traced his “Mexican” ancestry back four generations.
Bob, with the eight generations identified more with his Mayan ancestry, NOT that which came from Spain. THAT IS a “racial”, not merely “ethnic” identity. I met both at our 40th high school reunion, Bob was a neurosurgeon, Eddie had been a firefighter and forester with the state of California. Neither though either “Hispanic”, nor “Latino”, a valid identifier to them.
While my ancestry is Germanic (Caucasian) and Cherokee (non-white), but I identify as an American human.(No hyphenation)
Wraithkin almost 11 years ago
I actually sift through most articles and draw my own conclusions; I don’t feel that politifact is truly nonpartisan. Everyone has an agenda. But, I appreciate the compliment and back to you as well. I wish more posters on here were civil.