I’m sure we can expect Texas, Mississippi, and Alabama to play fair. Only enlightened, compassionate, and intelligent individuals run the affairs of those states nowadays.
Literacy tests? How to measure literacy? One man’s literacy is another man’s ignorance.i.e., literal interpretation of a religion’s holy book? Literal interpretation of The Constitution (that’s what those folks in the robes are supposed to do – and look how often they agree)?Too dangerous…
No, it isn’t. These states typically charge for ID, reduce availability for voting in more Democratic districts, and require people to bring extensive evidence to get their ID — and exclude the easier forms of evidence, like military ID. Make no mistake: this is a deliberate attempt to exclude LEGITIMATE CITIZENS from using their vote. Period.Research indicates quite clearly that the “voter fraud” claim is utter nonsense — it is at best trivial. So why make it harder for millions of legitimate voters to stop a handful?
I can’t see how the actions of this supreme court are anything but biased. It appears to me that it is basically in the pockets of the rich and powerful (who strike me as being mostly Republican.)I thought discriminating was against the law, but the supreme court is doing exactly that. How is it NOT discrimination when they say that SOME citizens can vote, but others cannot?And how is it NOT discrimination when they say thatSOME citizens can marry, but others cannot?Giving those powers to the states guarantees thatmany citizens will NOT b e allowed to vote or marry.I’m disillusioned by this country. I believe that the supreme court should be disbanded. All they ever do is create problems and ensure there will always enough work for all the lawyers.
“Now every stinking southern state of racist southerners…”-Certainly you don’t think that every citizen of southern states is a racist, or that states outside of Dixie are devoid of racists.
From the US Constitution, Amendment XVI, Section 1: No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States-This gives the federal government the authority to stop states from infringing on the voting rights of it’s residents. It’s “guaranteed by the Constitution.”
Tigger, have you ever heard about time? And change? Yes, back in the 1850s, the Republicans were better on race than the Democrats. We get that. Are they now? Different question, just maybe a different answer. It’s very hard to take you seriously when you seem to be incapable of such an elementary observation — that times change.
goweeder, you are so right! That discrimination is being practiced in our own court system is very bad. why can some citizens vote and others have had it nearly impossible to vote, and who can marry whom. this is not being the land of the free. This is some animals are more worthy than the others. This nation that I used to be proud of has gone steadily downhill, since Reagan. Both parties bow down to the men with the money and make sure that those few keep gathering up more and more, leaving the rest with much less. the racists, the most of us who were not born gay, people who are afraid and dislike foreigners, those who profit from waging war and don’t care who or how many die, want and have the power to keep others under their thumbs.I’m a liberal and proud of it, but I am not proud of democrats or things that have happened in Obama’s term, like re-newing the patriot act, holding people without trial, and the democrats are wrong about the 2nd. amendment, and think most republicans are seeing the world with so very different eyes of mine. We don’t have any that with out thinking long and hard, I would even consider to be a proper candidate for president.
Wallace was a Dixiecrat who left the Democratic Party to run a 3rd party candidacy for President.Get off of this crud of Democrats from 50 years ago being racists when most of them left the party to become REPUBLICANS!
Tigger, I said, and I quote, “These states typically charge for ID.” One exception does NOT make me a liar, and I strongly object to your characterization.
Tigger said: Liar! Tennessee does not Charge for a Photo ID to Vote, they’re FREE!- – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – -Perhaps the IDs themselves are “free”, but how about the supporting documentation required to get those IDs? Lose your drivers license (assuming you have one) and see what you have to go through to get a replacement. You’d probably do it because you need to drive, but if the only benifit from an ID is to vote, I doubt you’d bother.
Not one to let the facts ruin a good story but SCOTUS did not overturn the Voting Rights Act. All it did was say the existing laws were based on data from the 1970s and outdated. To recognize that things can change for the better — or worse — and the laws should change accordingly so that people previously being “punished” who no longer should be are no longer; and those not being monitored and probably should be are. Take, for instance, a parish in Louisiana outside Lafayette who went from predominantly white to predominantly black in the last 40 years. Their taxes are still having to pay for oversight of voter registration and extra federal poll workers where voter suppression is literally a thing of the past. But the next parish over, which has becomes an affluent part of the state, no one knows if blacks are being suppressed because no one bothered to ask.
dahhardee almost 11 years ago
yeah and everyone else can do the same.
Vermont Premium Member almost 11 years ago
I’m sure we can expect Texas, Mississippi, and Alabama to play fair. Only enlightened, compassionate, and intelligent individuals run the affairs of those states nowadays.
thegreatack almost 11 years ago
Literacy tests? How to measure literacy? One man’s literacy is another man’s ignorance.i.e., literal interpretation of a religion’s holy book? Literal interpretation of The Constitution (that’s what those folks in the robes are supposed to do – and look how often they agree)?Too dangerous…
Motivemagus almost 11 years ago
No, it isn’t. These states typically charge for ID, reduce availability for voting in more Democratic districts, and require people to bring extensive evidence to get their ID — and exclude the easier forms of evidence, like military ID. Make no mistake: this is a deliberate attempt to exclude LEGITIMATE CITIZENS from using their vote. Period.Research indicates quite clearly that the “voter fraud” claim is utter nonsense — it is at best trivial. So why make it harder for millions of legitimate voters to stop a handful?
goweeder almost 11 years ago
I can’t see how the actions of this supreme court are anything but biased. It appears to me that it is basically in the pockets of the rich and powerful (who strike me as being mostly Republican.)I thought discriminating was against the law, but the supreme court is doing exactly that. How is it NOT discrimination when they say that SOME citizens can vote, but others cannot?And how is it NOT discrimination when they say thatSOME citizens can marry, but others cannot?Giving those powers to the states guarantees thatmany citizens will NOT b e allowed to vote or marry.I’m disillusioned by this country. I believe that the supreme court should be disbanded. All they ever do is create problems and ensure there will always enough work for all the lawyers.
CasualBrowser almost 11 years ago
“Now every stinking southern state of racist southerners…”-Certainly you don’t think that every citizen of southern states is a racist, or that states outside of Dixie are devoid of racists.
CasualBrowser almost 11 years ago
From the US Constitution, Amendment XVI, Section 1: No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States-This gives the federal government the authority to stop states from infringing on the voting rights of it’s residents. It’s “guaranteed by the Constitution.”
CasualBrowser almost 11 years ago
“@masterskrainYou are a racist”-What brought you to the conclusion that ms is racist?
CasualBrowser almost 11 years ago
" A sport.. perhaps, where the team that can outflank.. out manipulate.. out smear the other team.. wins."-An interesting take, r2.
lonecat almost 11 years ago
Tigger, have you ever heard about time? And change? Yes, back in the 1850s, the Republicans were better on race than the Democrats. We get that. Are they now? Different question, just maybe a different answer. It’s very hard to take you seriously when you seem to be incapable of such an elementary observation — that times change.
pam Miner almost 11 years ago
goweeder, you are so right! That discrimination is being practiced in our own court system is very bad. why can some citizens vote and others have had it nearly impossible to vote, and who can marry whom. this is not being the land of the free. This is some animals are more worthy than the others. This nation that I used to be proud of has gone steadily downhill, since Reagan. Both parties bow down to the men with the money and make sure that those few keep gathering up more and more, leaving the rest with much less. the racists, the most of us who were not born gay, people who are afraid and dislike foreigners, those who profit from waging war and don’t care who or how many die, want and have the power to keep others under their thumbs.I’m a liberal and proud of it, but I am not proud of democrats or things that have happened in Obama’s term, like re-newing the patriot act, holding people without trial, and the democrats are wrong about the 2nd. amendment, and think most republicans are seeing the world with so very different eyes of mine. We don’t have any that with out thinking long and hard, I would even consider to be a proper candidate for president.
William Bednar Premium Member almost 11 years ago
So we’re back to the banal state of: “We’re white, you’re not” syndrome? Sad, very very sad!
oneoldhat almost 11 years ago
democratic logic[?] if dead people can vote why not non citizens ?
McSpook almost 11 years ago
Wallace was a Dixiecrat who left the Democratic Party to run a 3rd party candidacy for President.Get off of this crud of Democrats from 50 years ago being racists when most of them left the party to become REPUBLICANS!
lcdrlar almost 11 years ago
Let’s include Ginsberg, and Kagan in showing proper ID.
Motivemagus almost 11 years ago
Tigger, I said, and I quote, “These states typically charge for ID.” One exception does NOT make me a liar, and I strongly object to your characterization.
dahhardee almost 11 years ago
SOUTHERN STATES;. like you progressive open minded northern states are any less racist, No one ever retires and moves up north Mmmm wonder why?
Alabama Al almost 11 years ago
Tigger said: Liar! Tennessee does not Charge for a Photo ID to Vote, they’re FREE!- – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – -Perhaps the IDs themselves are “free”, but how about the supporting documentation required to get those IDs? Lose your drivers license (assuming you have one) and see what you have to go through to get a replacement. You’d probably do it because you need to drive, but if the only benifit from an ID is to vote, I doubt you’d bother.
Bob Smith almost 11 years ago
Not one to let the facts ruin a good story but SCOTUS did not overturn the Voting Rights Act. All it did was say the existing laws were based on data from the 1970s and outdated. To recognize that things can change for the better — or worse — and the laws should change accordingly so that people previously being “punished” who no longer should be are no longer; and those not being monitored and probably should be are. Take, for instance, a parish in Louisiana outside Lafayette who went from predominantly white to predominantly black in the last 40 years. Their taxes are still having to pay for oversight of voter registration and extra federal poll workers where voter suppression is literally a thing of the past. But the next parish over, which has becomes an affluent part of the state, no one knows if blacks are being suppressed because no one bothered to ask.
oneoldhat almost 11 years ago
dear alabama al what you need is your tax bill and utility bill and be found in their computer and look like the photo they have of you
rossevrymn almost 11 years ago
This guy blows.