Its like people being accused of abusing mechanics in games while they are just being inventive with whats allready there. You need ways to tax, so people can´t get “caught” in between countries.
Agreed. US tax laws ought to be changed so that companies who owe their wealth to access to the US market pay a substantial portion of that wealth into the US treasury.
Also: “evaded” would be illegal. “Dodged” is what they did.
If you follow the news, it’s pretty clear that Apple has been especially aggressive in tax avoidance. It seems that what they’ve done is probably technically legal. But it’s on the edge of what’s right. When you’re as rich as Apple – a company that doesn’t even provide customer service for its overpriced products – the least you could do is pay your taxes.
First in order to change anything is the current USA you have to buy back the politicians from the likes of Monsanto, The NRA and Grover to name just a few of the biggest criminals.
Apple, a $500 billion company, employs a mere 47,000 employees. GM, worth 1/3 as much, employs 5 times as many. In other words, Apple is a vampire corporation that sucks cash out of the economy, while returning only 1/15th of the jobs a traditional company of the same size would provide. And they don’t even want to pay taxes to cover the unemployment benefits needed for the job losses they’re causing.
The problem here is that Apple, like even Mr. Mitt Romney, and even President Obama, are being accused of hiding their assets and their true wealth outside of American Law and that revelation of Apple’s practices shows how widespread this problem really is.…Apple itself has some additional troubles, in the form of the anti-trust suits that it won against Samsung and that it could be argued that Apple is also engaging in the same activity that it accused its rival, Samsung, of doing—which was to use its foreign base of operations and practices outside the United States to wipe out their competition inside the US markets.…Apple can not have it both ways, where it seeks out US legal protections in the courts to assert that their rivals are using their international positions to dominate the US markets, while also using those same measures, practices and even facilities, perhaps, to protect themselves against taxes.…And for those of us that can not afford lawyers and accountants to hide that kind of wealth even from both the IRS and the California Franchise Tax Board—Apple being a California company and all—these governmental agencies are squeezing us folks, asking us to pay for the shortfalls that they could not collect from these corporations.…And I am sick and tired of hearing about how I need to pay more in taxes when I don’t even have money myself, either being unemployed or “self-employed” while I also look for a full-time job.
Once again, Congress is unhappy that people do what the Congress has allowed them to do. If Congress doesn’t like the loopholes it has built into the tax laws, then Congress needs to close them. It is within their power. Grousing that others have found flaws in their design is self-serving and of no value in the long run. Again, though, this would require Congress to actually do something, so nothing will change.
“if Apple “Dodged” taxes they would be put in jail.”Tell me when any company has ever been put in jail. Tell me when any company has ever been sentenced to death for murder.
“Apple paid what 6 billion, legally? That is like what 2% of our general budget.”Apple uses the $6 billion figure when talking about it’s tax bill, but the actual amount of taxes Apple paid is less than half that. Thanks to Apple’s skilled accountants, they will defer taxes owed until they have a bad year & can basically wipe out the bill. Too bad you & I can’t do that, huh?
Let’s all just voluntarily revoke our U.S. citizenships and imigrate to Ignoramistan. I hear that idyllic country needs to increase its population and considering the comments here; there are many in the U.S. who would fit right into Ignoramistan’s new political system of Fetishism.
ConserveGov almost 11 years ago
Even with my IPad retina display, Ted’s drawing still looks crappy as usual.
Tue Elung-Jensen almost 11 years ago
Its like people being accused of abusing mechanics in games while they are just being inventive with whats allready there. You need ways to tax, so people can´t get “caught” in between countries.
vwdualnomand almost 11 years ago
siri, how can i dodge taxes?
SavannahJim Premium Member almost 11 years ago
Doesn’t take a Genius…
Ted Rall creator almost 11 years ago
Agreed. US tax laws ought to be changed so that companies who owe their wealth to access to the US market pay a substantial portion of that wealth into the US treasury.
Also: “evaded” would be illegal. “Dodged” is what they did.
Ted Rall creator almost 11 years ago
If you follow the news, it’s pretty clear that Apple has been especially aggressive in tax avoidance. It seems that what they’ve done is probably technically legal. But it’s on the edge of what’s right. When you’re as rich as Apple – a company that doesn’t even provide customer service for its overpriced products – the least you could do is pay your taxes.
michael pokrivnak almost 11 years ago
First in order to change anything is the current USA you have to buy back the politicians from the likes of Monsanto, The NRA and Grover to name just a few of the biggest criminals.
Ted Rall creator almost 11 years ago
Apple, a $500 billion company, employs a mere 47,000 employees. GM, worth 1/3 as much, employs 5 times as many. In other words, Apple is a vampire corporation that sucks cash out of the economy, while returning only 1/15th of the jobs a traditional company of the same size would provide. And they don’t even want to pay taxes to cover the unemployment benefits needed for the job losses they’re causing.
californicated1 almost 11 years ago
The problem here is that Apple, like even Mr. Mitt Romney, and even President Obama, are being accused of hiding their assets and their true wealth outside of American Law and that revelation of Apple’s practices shows how widespread this problem really is.…Apple itself has some additional troubles, in the form of the anti-trust suits that it won against Samsung and that it could be argued that Apple is also engaging in the same activity that it accused its rival, Samsung, of doing—which was to use its foreign base of operations and practices outside the United States to wipe out their competition inside the US markets.…Apple can not have it both ways, where it seeks out US legal protections in the courts to assert that their rivals are using their international positions to dominate the US markets, while also using those same measures, practices and even facilities, perhaps, to protect themselves against taxes.…And for those of us that can not afford lawyers and accountants to hide that kind of wealth even from both the IRS and the California Franchise Tax Board—Apple being a California company and all—these governmental agencies are squeezing us folks, asking us to pay for the shortfalls that they could not collect from these corporations.…And I am sick and tired of hearing about how I need to pay more in taxes when I don’t even have money myself, either being unemployed or “self-employed” while I also look for a full-time job.
Ted Rall creator almost 11 years ago
Couldn’t agree more.
Ted Rall creator almost 11 years ago
Read up on Apple’s tax avoidance strategies. They really pushed the envelope.
I Play One On TV almost 11 years ago
Once again, Congress is unhappy that people do what the Congress has allowed them to do. If Congress doesn’t like the loopholes it has built into the tax laws, then Congress needs to close them. It is within their power. Grousing that others have found flaws in their design is self-serving and of no value in the long run. Again, though, this would require Congress to actually do something, so nothing will change.
jdcorley almost 11 years ago
Why all this hate for Apple?!?!
GE didn’t pay A SINGLE DIME in 2010!!! ZERO, ZIP, ZILCH, NADA in taxes on a $14.2B profit, at least Apple paid taxes on something!
Can’t even blame political donations on this, cuz they both gave big to Obama….
This is why we need to repeal the 17th Amendment, replace it with a flat tax and EVERYBODY pays the same rate with only a simple personal deduction.
edward thomas Premium Member almost 11 years ago
A flat tax would have to be so high that only corps (and corpses?) could afford to pay it!
Uncle Joe Premium Member almost 11 years ago
“if Apple “Dodged” taxes they would be put in jail.”Tell me when any company has ever been put in jail. Tell me when any company has ever been sentenced to death for murder.
Uncle Joe Premium Member almost 11 years ago
“Apple paid what 6 billion, legally? That is like what 2% of our general budget.”Apple uses the $6 billion figure when talking about it’s tax bill, but the actual amount of taxes Apple paid is less than half that. Thanks to Apple’s skilled accountants, they will defer taxes owed until they have a bad year & can basically wipe out the bill. Too bad you & I can’t do that, huh?
Joseph Arnold almost 11 years ago
Pass the Fair Tax
William Bednar Premium Member almost 11 years ago
Let’s all just voluntarily revoke our U.S. citizenships and imigrate to Ignoramistan. I hear that idyllic country needs to increase its population and considering the comments here; there are many in the U.S. who would fit right into Ignoramistan’s new political system of Fetishism.
Theodore E. Lind Premium Member almost 11 years ago
You get what you vote for. If you don’t like the tax code quit re-electing your Senator and Representative.
William Bednar Premium Member almost 11 years ago
Wait a minute!! Aren’t firefighters supposed to be “volunteers”? That’s what Boehner told me!!