Good Heaven NO!! Not the incredible theories of the birthplace deniers again!,BR>
Besides which, at the peak of such military activity under the last administration, there were well over 220,000 boots-on-the-ground troops in both Afghanistan and Iraq. Now, for all practical purposes, there are none left in Iraq, and we are now in the process of drawing down the number of ground troops in Afghanistan from a high of about 90,000 to a low of some 60,000 by the end of this month. And even those will be drawn down to only about 34,000 by the end of February 2014, and effectively (like Iraq) zero by the end of 2014.
Further, (and NOT because he does not have the authority to do so) the current president has deferred to the generals in charge, the actual numbers of ground troops to be drawn down in Afghanistan. And it is they that would hold up such troop withdrawals until after the “fighting season” ends this fall!!!!
To say that Obama has deferred to the generals is disingenuous. The generals are there to make strategic and tactical decisions to carry out the will of the president. Deciding to prosecute a war is a political decision, NOT a military decision in the United States. If Obama has deferred to the generals, he has either abrogated his responsibility as the president to make the decision whether or not to be in a state of war, or he has decided to continue the war and is attempting to blame it on his generals. This is one that he cannot blame on someone else. No-one else has the authority to wage a war.
You are either stupid, lazy or both.A simple search of Google turned up numerous sources, you won’t read or like, that supports Tigger’s contention.Here’s just one for you from Politico, hardly a bastion of conservative talking points.
“You forget, it was Hillary Clinton who was the first to allege Obama was born in Kenya, and not the USA.”More of your creative “paraphrasing”, I see. Hillary did not make any allegations about Obama’s birth. The first allegations came from some desperate, anonymous pro-Clinton supporters on the Internet.Pretending that Republicans would have never thought of making an issue of Obama’s heritage is ridiculous. Even though Democrats did start the theories, it has been Republicans who were the biggest losers believers in birther claims.
“And you wonder why Cons are looked upon ans wild eyed fanatics?”Gaunt, read more carefully. Mike wme’s posts are pure satire. He says Rall doesn’t know what really happened in Afghanistan because he went there & actually got out & talked to people, instead of taking the “guided tour” as an embedded journalist.
Pf course, you realize that those legitimate Hawaiian newspaper accounts of President Obama’s actual birth in the state of Hawaii were deliberately placed as the liberal powers that be knew that they needed that this baby was going to become the president of the USA some decades away. WOW, talk about your left wing conspiracies, that one is right up there with the one about NASA never going to eh moon. Especially because, NASA was warned by the highly superior aliens not to ever go onto the hidden side (it is NOT dark, only hidden from the Earth) of the moon because that is where they have their secret base!!
Of course, we all know these conspiracies to be good and true!!!
Yes, it’s so awful that folks still blame Tojo and Japan for attacking Pearl Harbor and starting WW II, when it’s obvious Obama started it. BTW, Hitler declared war on the U.S., not the other way around. So, I guess that’s the only reason Michael and the righties can’t blame Obama for that?
You just made that up, didn’t you?-—I don’t know how we got into the Birther Question on this thread, but I did another search and came up with definitive proof that BHO was born in Kenya! You can view it on YouTube, here:http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=U5iMHU9WDF8#!
“There is no more living peacably with radical islam than there is living peacably with stage 3 cancer.”At the moment, Iran is the only nation I can think of that is truly governed by radical Islamists. Egypt is tilting precariously in that direction, as is Pakistan. The thing is, radical Islam is really just radical conservatism for those places. Left alone, they will fail, just like the Ottomans, the Soviet Union “The only way to win is to engage in genocide.”Absurd & immoral. What is the point of winning, if you must become more evil than your opponent?
“I must disabuse you of the notion that Obama is a Liberal or Progressive.”Obama was the less stupid of two evils, nothing more, nothing less. Sadly, I don’t see the Democrats nominating an actual liberal anytime soon. Too many people still think that if the Dow Jones is up, it’s good for all Americans.
braindead Premium Member almost 11 years ago
Thank you George W. Bush. The gift that keeps on giving.
frodo1008 almost 11 years ago
Good Heaven NO!! Not the incredible theories of the birthplace deniers again!,BR>
Besides which, at the peak of such military activity under the last administration, there were well over 220,000 boots-on-the-ground troops in both Afghanistan and Iraq. Now, for all practical purposes, there are none left in Iraq, and we are now in the process of drawing down the number of ground troops in Afghanistan from a high of about 90,000 to a low of some 60,000 by the end of this month. And even those will be drawn down to only about 34,000 by the end of February 2014, and effectively (like Iraq) zero by the end of 2014.
Further, (and NOT because he does not have the authority to do so) the current president has deferred to the generals in charge, the actual numbers of ground troops to be drawn down in Afghanistan. And it is they that would hold up such troop withdrawals until after the “fighting season” ends this fall!!!!
echoraven almost 11 years ago
Ugly cartoon and unfortunately very well done Ted. Great job!
mattro65 almost 11 years ago
“…The Republicans never would have brought it up.” This is utter nonsense and your grammar and punctuation (not surprisingly) stink.
Packratjohn Premium Member almost 11 years ago
Bush allowed this war to happen. Who, then, are we to blame?
As for the President’s place of birth, what proof do you offer?
d_legendary1 almost 11 years ago
In his mind the Democrats created the birthers, the deathers, and the Tea Party.
I Quit almost 11 years ago
To say that Obama has deferred to the generals is disingenuous. The generals are there to make strategic and tactical decisions to carry out the will of the president. Deciding to prosecute a war is a political decision, NOT a military decision in the United States. If Obama has deferred to the generals, he has either abrogated his responsibility as the president to make the decision whether or not to be in a state of war, or he has decided to continue the war and is attempting to blame it on his generals. This is one that he cannot blame on someone else. No-one else has the authority to wage a war.
dpbriley almost 11 years ago
You are either stupid, lazy or both.A simple search of Google turned up numerous sources, you won’t read or like, that supports Tigger’s contention.Here’s just one for you from Politico, hardly a bastion of conservative talking points.
Uncle Joe Premium Member almost 11 years ago
“You forget, it was Hillary Clinton who was the first to allege Obama was born in Kenya, and not the USA.”More of your creative “paraphrasing”, I see. Hillary did not make any allegations about Obama’s birth. The first allegations came from some desperate, anonymous pro-Clinton supporters on the Internet.Pretending that Republicans would have never thought of making an issue of Obama’s heritage is ridiculous. Even though Democrats did start the theories, it has been Republicans who were the biggest losers believers in birther claims.
Uncle Joe Premium Member almost 11 years ago
“And you wonder why Cons are looked upon ans wild eyed fanatics?”Gaunt, read more carefully. Mike wme’s posts are pure satire. He says Rall doesn’t know what really happened in Afghanistan because he went there & actually got out & talked to people, instead of taking the “guided tour” as an embedded journalist.
frodo1008 almost 11 years ago
Pf course, you realize that those legitimate Hawaiian newspaper accounts of President Obama’s actual birth in the state of Hawaii were deliberately placed as the liberal powers that be knew that they needed that this baby was going to become the president of the USA some decades away. WOW, talk about your left wing conspiracies, that one is right up there with the one about NASA never going to eh moon. Especially because, NASA was warned by the highly superior aliens not to ever go onto the hidden side (it is NOT dark, only hidden from the Earth) of the moon because that is where they have their secret base!!
Of course, we all know these conspiracies to be good and true!!!
Dtroutma almost 11 years ago
Yes, it’s so awful that folks still blame Tojo and Japan for attacking Pearl Harbor and starting WW II, when it’s obvious Obama started it. BTW, Hitler declared war on the U.S., not the other way around. So, I guess that’s the only reason Michael and the righties can’t blame Obama for that?
derlehrer almost 11 years ago
You just made that up, didn’t you?-—I don’t know how we got into the Birther Question on this thread, but I did another search and came up with definitive proof that BHO was born in Kenya! You can view it on YouTube, here:http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=U5iMHU9WDF8#!
MiepR almost 11 years ago
That awkward feeling when you create a brutally brilliant cartoon, and all the commenters get derailed by arguing about birtherism.
Uncle Joe Premium Member almost 11 years ago
“There is no more living peacably with radical islam than there is living peacably with stage 3 cancer.”At the moment, Iran is the only nation I can think of that is truly governed by radical Islamists. Egypt is tilting precariously in that direction, as is Pakistan. The thing is, radical Islam is really just radical conservatism for those places. Left alone, they will fail, just like the Ottomans, the Soviet Union “The only way to win is to engage in genocide.”Absurd & immoral. What is the point of winning, if you must become more evil than your opponent?
Uncle Joe Premium Member almost 11 years ago
“I must disabuse you of the notion that Obama is a Liberal or Progressive.”Obama was the less stupid of two evils, nothing more, nothing less. Sadly, I don’t see the Democrats nominating an actual liberal anytime soon. Too many people still think that if the Dow Jones is up, it’s good for all Americans.