The Homeland Security ammo purchase sounds like a lot, except it’s a 5 year contract. They are not actually stockpiling ammo.The purchases come out to 667 rounds per year for each person who carries a gun for routine duty. Let me ask the people who are gun enthusiasts: does this sound like far more than they should need if they are spending regular time practicing & training at a target range?
There is only one reason ANY government would buy this massive quantity of bullets for non- military use. They are preparing for an uprising. They think they will need it to suppress the armed (and unarmed) populace. Reason as you will – There is NO other explanation. BTW: Hollow points are NOT generally used for target practice.
IMO it seems as though no administration agency leader has the capacity to tell the truth; this is looking like totalitarian POPULATION CONTROL; always done by “elected” Dictator types….check 20th century history…continued in the 21st.
I guess Lisa get her ideas from chain emails and doesn’t bother to check them. It doesn’t seem to hurt her readership numbers though… I’m kind of embarrassed to be posting here.
When I have the opportunity to go the range, I put about 75-100 rounds downrange. But, of course, I have different training standards I adhere. If I had the money for it (and my ammo is in extremely limited supply), I’d go at least once a month, maybe twice. But, if I shot as much as I do as often as I’d like, I’d be burning around $1200 a year in just ammo. If not more.
Joe: PPC takes 60 rounds. Qualify twice a year, and practice in between, does add up. Also wadcutters now cost more than ball ammunition!! So, target practice is cheaper with regular rounds. Now as to hollow points, yes, they do more internal damage, and cause more shock, but are also less likely to pass through and injure bystanders. Frangible bullets, that break down even more,are even “safer” for bystanders.
SWR: here’s one for you: go through the Pentagon (as most are in contracting anyway) and fire every other field grade you see. Next day do the same, for three months. That would take the “General Staff” and field grades down to a level the Pentagon really needs. Fire half the civilians the first day, another half the second day, same effect. Set up razor wire and claymores to keep contractor lobbyists at bay, "defense"spending problem solved.(Well, sort of.) Oh,right, ban all but one lobbyist for defense contractors (all combined) from entering the halls of Congress, or talking to elected officials, or their staffs.
Pharmaceutical reps also, only one for the entire industry. Medical providers: same thing. Go back to the pre-Reagan level of lobbyists or below, and K Street would be cut by 88%. Limit lobbyist salaries to GS-11 scale. (They ARE after all essentially “government employees”.)
Ellen Gwynne about 11 years ago
Sell it back to the military!
Dtroutma about 11 years ago
Yep, Lisa, how ’bout those 33 NEW departments BUSH created to form “Homeland Security” in ADDITION to the ones we ALREADY HAD!
Uncle Joe Premium Member about 11 years ago
The Homeland Security ammo purchase sounds like a lot, except it’s a 5 year contract. They are not actually stockpiling ammo.The purchases come out to 667 rounds per year for each person who carries a gun for routine duty. Let me ask the people who are gun enthusiasts: does this sound like far more than they should need if they are spending regular time practicing & training at a target range?
carandken about 11 years ago
Ministry of Truth, Ministry of Peace, Homeland security-all Orwellian lies.
avarner about 11 years ago
There is only one reason ANY government would buy this massive quantity of bullets for non- military use. They are preparing for an uprising. They think they will need it to suppress the armed (and unarmed) populace. Reason as you will – There is NO other explanation. BTW: Hollow points are NOT generally used for target practice.
Wraithkin about 11 years ago
Yeah. If there’s any truth to this, the DHS is retarded. Makes me want to backhand an official.
disgustedtaxpayer about 11 years ago
IMO it seems as though no administration agency leader has the capacity to tell the truth; this is looking like totalitarian POPULATION CONTROL; always done by “elected” Dictator types….check 20th century history…continued in the 21st.
Yontrop about 11 years ago
I guess Lisa get her ideas from chain emails and doesn’t bother to check them. It doesn’t seem to hurt her readership numbers though… I’m kind of embarrassed to be posting here.
Yontrop about 11 years ago
To be fair to Ryan. It was probably a slip of the tongue. (Freudian perhaps?)
Wraithkin about 11 years ago
When I have the opportunity to go the range, I put about 75-100 rounds downrange. But, of course, I have different training standards I adhere. If I had the money for it (and my ammo is in extremely limited supply), I’d go at least once a month, maybe twice. But, if I shot as much as I do as often as I’d like, I’d be burning around $1200 a year in just ammo. If not more.
Uncle Joe Premium Member about 11 years ago
“I would think Benson would be in favour of this.”Benson doesn’t think government employees deserve any courtesy…
Uncle Joe Premium Member about 11 years ago
Thanks to the folks who answered my question about how much ammo they use at the range. I had no idea that it could be such an expensive hobby.
Dtroutma about 11 years ago
Joe: PPC takes 60 rounds. Qualify twice a year, and practice in between, does add up. Also wadcutters now cost more than ball ammunition!! So, target practice is cheaper with regular rounds. Now as to hollow points, yes, they do more internal damage, and cause more shock, but are also less likely to pass through and injure bystanders. Frangible bullets, that break down even more,are even “safer” for bystanders.
Dtroutma about 11 years ago
SWR: here’s one for you: go through the Pentagon (as most are in contracting anyway) and fire every other field grade you see. Next day do the same, for three months. That would take the “General Staff” and field grades down to a level the Pentagon really needs. Fire half the civilians the first day, another half the second day, same effect. Set up razor wire and claymores to keep contractor lobbyists at bay, "defense"spending problem solved.(Well, sort of.) Oh,right, ban all but one lobbyist for defense contractors (all combined) from entering the halls of Congress, or talking to elected officials, or their staffs.
Pharmaceutical reps also, only one for the entire industry. Medical providers: same thing. Go back to the pre-Reagan level of lobbyists or below, and K Street would be cut by 88%. Limit lobbyist salaries to GS-11 scale. (They ARE after all essentially “government employees”.)