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Apparently I missed whatever article this is based upon. I was not aware anyone was leaving, except for a handful of illegals who are supposedly “self-deporting”.. I AM aware that we make it hard for people to come here legally. And after 9-11 Muslims supposedly were reluctant to come here because of the reasonable fear of a poor reception. Internally, people like those above are supposedly pouring out of California, but that’s obviously not the issue here.
I think it has to do with the fact Obama’s administration has deported more folks, and also his call for changing “rules” so we can KEEP highly trained (in the US) folks as citizens rather than kicking them out.
We have not been welcoming immigrants for quite some time, and make it extremely hard for legals to get green cards/naturalization. In addition we have been deporting at a higher level, and with the slow economy, many are choosing to leave on their own.
Rich people don’t leave America. Their MONEY does. And I have a friend who left America for Europe because he lost his job and health care. He was a university graduate with great technical skills, now floundering in Spain because he’s a diabetic and can’t get medical care here. Nice.
I note DrCanuck says “breath-free” not “live free”. My understanding is that Canadian “civility” is of the doctrinaire pc type—you can be as vicious as you like about certain groups, but not a whisper about certain other groups. Oliphant could never get along there. Canada used to be one of the whitest countries in the world. If all the “rednecks” have left, the Asians and Muslims must be a majority now.
It doesn’t matter if the administration is Democratic or Republican as the occupants (with few notable exceptions) are vetted by the corporate interests of finance and the military police congressional industrial entertainment complex.
Amendments 1,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,13,14,15,19 and Habeas Corpus have been deluded and deteriorated to various degrees (along with the post office) almost to irrelevance even while the fear mongers and NRA rabbel rousers inflame the population with the 2nd amendment fantasies to the exclusion of all else. The police and legal system do not protect the rights of citizens: its not about justice – its all about maintaining order cloaked within the pretense of “civil rights”.
Many sense the Iron fist of corporate rule encircling and tightening around the populations collective throats despite the velvet glove’s assurances.
The problem is in finding countries not in the clutches of the right wing neo-liberalism financial agenda of To big to fail, to big to jail corporate plutocratic / oligarchical rule.
If not for personal obligations and old age, I would seriously consider emigrating
I spent three weeks this past summer in Canada, (I only live 50 miles from the border) and learned that there are no Indians anymore. They do have First Nations People. Canadians are also bad drivers, very PC, but great people.
USA IS becoming a fascist state. Mussolini said it best… “Fascism should be called Corporatism because it’s when the interests of government and corporations combine.” Sadly, I think this is the trajectory course, no matter who iselected from either party.Said rossid
“Has anyone figured out what the base of prosperity is?”We figured that out years ago. Strong middle class incomes create prosperity. Unfortunately, we were persuaded otherwise by St. Ronnie…
dennis17 about 11 years ago
Apparently I missed whatever article this is based upon. I was not aware anyone was leaving, except for a handful of illegals who are supposedly “self-deporting”.. I AM aware that we make it hard for people to come here legally. And after 9-11 Muslims supposedly were reluctant to come here because of the reasonable fear of a poor reception. Internally, people like those above are supposedly pouring out of California, but that’s obviously not the issue here.
chromosome Premium Member about 11 years ago
I’ve heard of people on fixed (low) incomes, with health problems and people who have hit hard times leaving to countries with lower cost of living.
Dtroutma about 11 years ago
I think it has to do with the fact Obama’s administration has deported more folks, and also his call for changing “rules” so we can KEEP highly trained (in the US) folks as citizens rather than kicking them out.
edward thomas Premium Member about 11 years ago
We have not been welcoming immigrants for quite some time, and make it extremely hard for legals to get green cards/naturalization. In addition we have been deporting at a higher level, and with the slow economy, many are choosing to leave on their own.
Chillbilly about 11 years ago
Rich people don’t leave America. Their MONEY does. And I have a friend who left America for Europe because he lost his job and health care. He was a university graduate with great technical skills, now floundering in Spain because he’s a diabetic and can’t get medical care here. Nice.
SABRSteve about 11 years ago
Is George Soros in line, I hope?
oneoldhat about 11 years ago
trying to find numbers on canada — USA in 2010 9243 left USA for canada vs 2000 to 2010 214282 left canada for USA
dennis17 about 11 years ago
I note DrCanuck says “breath-free” not “live free”. My understanding is that Canadian “civility” is of the doctrinaire pc type—you can be as vicious as you like about certain groups, but not a whisper about certain other groups. Oliphant could never get along there. Canada used to be one of the whitest countries in the world. If all the “rednecks” have left, the Asians and Muslims must be a majority now.
dfdonnell about 11 years ago
It doesn’t matter if the administration is Democratic or Republican as the occupants (with few notable exceptions) are vetted by the corporate interests of finance and the military police congressional industrial entertainment complex.
Amendments 1,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,13,14,15,19 and Habeas Corpus have been deluded and deteriorated to various degrees (along with the post office) almost to irrelevance even while the fear mongers and NRA rabbel rousers inflame the population with the 2nd amendment fantasies to the exclusion of all else. The police and legal system do not protect the rights of citizens: its not about justice – its all about maintaining order cloaked within the pretense of “civil rights”.
Many sense the Iron fist of corporate rule encircling and tightening around the populations collective throats despite the velvet glove’s assurances.
The problem is in finding countries not in the clutches of the right wing neo-liberalism financial agenda of To big to fail, to big to jail corporate plutocratic / oligarchical rule.
If not for personal obligations and old age, I would seriously consider emigrating
edward thomas Premium Member about 11 years ago
I hope Rupert Murdoch and his minions are in line. They’ve done more to harm this country than Soros ever THOUGHT of doing!
SABRSteve about 11 years ago
I spent three weeks this past summer in Canada, (I only live 50 miles from the border) and learned that there are no Indians anymore. They do have First Nations People. Canadians are also bad drivers, very PC, but great people.
jaimeaut about 11 years ago
USA IS becoming a fascist state. Mussolini said it best… “Fascism should be called Corporatism because it’s when the interests of government and corporations combine.” Sadly, I think this is the trajectory course, no matter who iselected from either party.Said rossid
thebaldtexican about 11 years ago
Productive makers out, non productive takers in… a progressive paradise…
Uncle Joe Premium Member about 11 years ago
“Has anyone figured out what the base of prosperity is?”We figured that out years ago. Strong middle class incomes create prosperity. Unfortunately, we were persuaded otherwise by St. Ronnie…
beprepn about 11 years ago
Ouch – I was depending on the illegals to pay my social security!
38lowell about 11 years ago
38lowell about 11 years ago
OMG! Another job lost!Guess we don’t need him anymore.