The nightmare continues. On a daily basis there are reports on “reconfiguration” of ObamaCare to accommodate the unions or other groups that want special accommodation or exemption. Add to that almost no one clearly understands how this is going to work with their exchanges and the states are constantly bailing on setting up their exchanges and passing it back to the government. This has all the earmarks of a huge government kluge. Maybe cluster f**k would be a more appropriate term. Business is still completely on hold because they have no clue how this is going to affect them and requests for information from the government on procedural matters is almost non-existent. The scary part is they haven’t even gotten close to the implementation part and with such a complex system to deal with they are running out of time. Functionality is supposed to be in 11 months?
Good job Democrats…….As said before, make your 2014 dr appointments now because pretty soon those offices are going to be PACKED with people who never bothered buying health insurance until now when we will pay much of it for them.And don’t tell me they couldn’t get it before. My nephew worked at McDonalds during college and had health insurance. If you’re a senior citizen, you already have Medicare and if your disabled or just poor you have Medicaid.
8% of Americans identify with the tea party.Hillary Clinton has a 67% approval rating.Anyway, I canceled my health insurance when it went up again and I found out a guy who I used to work with, who is raising two grandkids, goes to the free clinic. I was subsidizing people like him.
" after 2016 President Clinton 45 might streamline the system a bit. Oh, sorry, your head just exploded. Better get used to it:"
Ooooooh Morty, I always love it when you talk stupid!!!!! Do you feel better, now I made an insulting remark so you’ll feel satiated that you offended me? The only thing that gets my head to explosive levels is having to put up with inane comments like yours from people that don’t live here and have no vested interest in our system. For your limited understanding of English I will explain that implementation implies that there is an existent, established, and defined system to be put in place, especially with an enormous government entitlement program such as this one. As I said in my earlier post, they are still making it up as they go along. Further to your impertinent comment, they have been implementing parts of the system for a couple of years now, but they are just the more simple qualification rules to affect existing insurance plans, such as keeping children till 26 on parents insurance and rules against preexisting conditions exclusions. As expected by all except the government, insurance policies have been rising substantially in the last 2 years and pricing many out of the market. So to calm your vicious state of mind, I posted a couple of links for you to read and hopefully further your understanding of what I originally wrote. And for the umpteenth time, I’m not a republican, I’m a Libertarian and I included a link for that for your perusal.
In closing Morty, walk softly and watch your back, most tyrants lives end badly, often at the hands of a firing squad themselves…
Definition of IMPLEMENT: carry out, accomplish; especially : to give practical effect to and ensure of actual fulfillment by concrete measures.
http://www.lp.org/ .You can look up the Libertarian view on healthcare if you’re so inclined.
Of course, it’s not like Obama’s plan isn’t identical to what the Republicans wanted in the mid-90s when they rejected Universal Health Care or anything.
My mom is on Medicaid in Florida, at age 100. Her only income is SS. Her supplemental health plan is $266 per month, the rest home gets the rest, all but $35/month for her “personal use”. Now, exactly what can you buy for $35 per month when considering clothing and other personal items?
BTW: federal retirement IS “rather generous”, but paid for in years of lower salary to make those pension payments, but nowhere near “six figures” for either the “average” or “median” federal employee. While federal health plans, due to the large number of participants, for their working careers, healthy or sick, is relatively inexpensive compared to individual private plans, which is exactly why a “single payer” system, even with private providers, would be far cheaper than the current system. It could also be used to control costs, if the “pro-business” folks (read Republicans) would do away with such restrictions as NON negotiation on drug prices.
“…pretty soon those offices are going to be PACKED”I have doctors that are booked 3-4 months ahead of time NOW. Wait times at my local clinic have been terrible since at least the Reagan Administration. Explain to me how the so called Obamacare is to blame for a problem that has existed decades before Obama was sworn into office.
We have a system of extortion by insurance companies that would make the Mafia seem like Boy Scouts. Talk about “Pay or Die”! And now Obama is giving even more money to those blood suckers with the ACA.
The USA is the LAST country in the world to have nationalised healthcare. I will agree that countries like the UK had problems to start with, but they were in the minority.To have problems with going into something that has been UNIVERSALLY proven to work, at this late stage in the 21st Century is a little pathetic.
^^Wraithkin, by defending the American health care system you are defending a system that allows 20-22,000 Americans to die each year (three 9/11s each year) from diseases that are treatable, and 700,000 medical bankruptcies because they lack adequate insurance coverage. (Harvard Law School / Medical College). That’s a high price to pay to defend an ideology, in fact with those statistics, you could say it’s an ideology that’s failing you, at least in the area of health care.
Mickey 13 about 11 years ago
The nightmare continues. On a daily basis there are reports on “reconfiguration” of ObamaCare to accommodate the unions or other groups that want special accommodation or exemption. Add to that almost no one clearly understands how this is going to work with their exchanges and the states are constantly bailing on setting up their exchanges and passing it back to the government. This has all the earmarks of a huge government kluge. Maybe cluster f**k would be a more appropriate term. Business is still completely on hold because they have no clue how this is going to affect them and requests for information from the government on procedural matters is almost non-existent. The scary part is they haven’t even gotten close to the implementation part and with such a complex system to deal with they are running out of time. Functionality is supposed to be in 11 months?
ConserveGov about 11 years ago
Good job Democrats…….As said before, make your 2014 dr appointments now because pretty soon those offices are going to be PACKED with people who never bothered buying health insurance until now when we will pay much of it for them.And don’t tell me they couldn’t get it before. My nephew worked at McDonalds during college and had health insurance. If you’re a senior citizen, you already have Medicare and if your disabled or just poor you have Medicaid.
rockngolfer about 11 years ago
8% of Americans identify with the tea party.Hillary Clinton has a 67% approval rating.Anyway, I canceled my health insurance when it went up again and I found out a guy who I used to work with, who is raising two grandkids, goes to the free clinic. I was subsidizing people like him.
Mickey 13 about 11 years ago
" after 2016 President Clinton 45 might streamline the system a bit. Oh, sorry, your head just exploded. Better get used to it:"
Ooooooh Morty, I always love it when you talk stupid!!!!! Do you feel better, now I made an insulting remark so you’ll feel satiated that you offended me? The only thing that gets my head to explosive levels is having to put up with inane comments like yours from people that don’t live here and have no vested interest in our system. For your limited understanding of English I will explain that implementation implies that there is an existent, established, and defined system to be put in place, especially with an enormous government entitlement program such as this one. As I said in my earlier post, they are still making it up as they go along. Further to your impertinent comment, they have been implementing parts of the system for a couple of years now, but they are just the more simple qualification rules to affect existing insurance plans, such as keeping children till 26 on parents insurance and rules against preexisting conditions exclusions. As expected by all except the government, insurance policies have been rising substantially in the last 2 years and pricing many out of the market. So to calm your vicious state of mind, I posted a couple of links for you to read and hopefully further your understanding of what I originally wrote. And for the umpteenth time, I’m not a republican, I’m a Libertarian and I included a link for that for your perusal.
In closing Morty, walk softly and watch your back, most tyrants lives end badly, often at the hands of a firing squad themselves…Definition of IMPLEMENT: carry out, accomplish; especially : to give practical effect to and ensure of actual fulfillment by concrete measures.
http://www.lp.org/ .You can look up the Libertarian view on healthcare if you’re so inclined.
cwsprague about 11 years ago
More like illegal immigrants…
Stormrider2112 about 11 years ago
Of course, it’s not like Obama’s plan isn’t identical to what the Republicans wanted in the mid-90s when they rejected Universal Health Care or anything.
Dtroutma about 11 years ago
My mom is on Medicaid in Florida, at age 100. Her only income is SS. Her supplemental health plan is $266 per month, the rest home gets the rest, all but $35/month for her “personal use”. Now, exactly what can you buy for $35 per month when considering clothing and other personal items?
BTW: federal retirement IS “rather generous”, but paid for in years of lower salary to make those pension payments, but nowhere near “six figures” for either the “average” or “median” federal employee. While federal health plans, due to the large number of participants, for their working careers, healthy or sick, is relatively inexpensive compared to individual private plans, which is exactly why a “single payer” system, even with private providers, would be far cheaper than the current system. It could also be used to control costs, if the “pro-business” folks (read Republicans) would do away with such restrictions as NON negotiation on drug prices.
Jason Allen about 11 years ago
“…pretty soon those offices are going to be PACKED”I have doctors that are booked 3-4 months ahead of time NOW. Wait times at my local clinic have been terrible since at least the Reagan Administration. Explain to me how the so called Obamacare is to blame for a problem that has existed decades before Obama was sworn into office.
joe vignone about 11 years ago
We have a system of extortion by insurance companies that would make the Mafia seem like Boy Scouts. Talk about “Pay or Die”! And now Obama is giving even more money to those blood suckers with the ACA.
oneoldhat about 11 years ago
hey jase called my clinic fri for quarterly check up 8;15 monday but was told when obamacare sets in wait time will be long
Ottodesu about 11 years ago
The USA is the LAST country in the world to have nationalised healthcare. I will agree that countries like the UK had problems to start with, but they were in the minority.To have problems with going into something that has been UNIVERSALLY proven to work, at this late stage in the 21st Century is a little pathetic.
Gypsy8 about 11 years ago
^^Wraithkin, by defending the American health care system you are defending a system that allows 20-22,000 Americans to die each year (three 9/11s each year) from diseases that are treatable, and 700,000 medical bankruptcies because they lack adequate insurance coverage. (Harvard Law School / Medical College). That’s a high price to pay to defend an ideology, in fact with those statistics, you could say it’s an ideology that’s failing you, at least in the area of health care.
Wraithkin about 11 years ago
Yes… those pesky facts distracting the argument. What were we thinking?