Wall Street Journal,, NYSE, are llnked. Last week they announced NYSE had been sold, but didn’t mention who SOLD it, just who bought it. I didn’t realize it COULD be bought and sold until Murdoch bought it.
Tigger: CBS, ABC, NBC, even Fox, WSJ, NYTimes, Washington Post, LA Times, or lots of other “financial” sections of those things called “newspapers” and “media”, ARE sources other than giving “links”, which I hate seeing, or doing,especially when so many cited are “frauds” and totally biased on these pages.
Rupert Murdoch had absolutely nothing, nada, zero to do with the NYSE. He never owned any part of it and obviously had nothing to do with selling it. One poster makes up things and thinks if he says them that makes it true.
The Gore reference was multi-purposeful. First as a “green” you shouldn’t encourage more dirty gas/oil usage and secondly he sold just before January 1, so he could pay at a lower tax rate. Both excellent business decisions but totally hypocritical. He should want to pay more taxes.
I think your comment is a tad off base. The toon is not about the butt load of money – it is about the facts that 1) Al Jazeera is owned by Qatar which is a dictatorship and is widely perceived to be of an anti-American bent, and 2) Qatar is one of the larger OIL producers – which should be the bane of fat boy’s existence.
You continue to interpret things which were not said/written. I made NO correlation between “buying a newspaper” and producing oil. I said Qatar was a DICTATORSHIP – and as you are well aware, those type of governments tend to slant their “news” in specific directions and may omit important details or fail to report relevant stories completely. Also, Al Jazeera is not just a newspaper – it is an entire news organization whose online presence is well known. I went to the Al Jazeera site and found it to be quite impressive and is certainly as fair and balanced as Fox. But what concerns people is that it can easily change because it is run by that Qatar government which is a dictatorship. You can easily find articles and sources citing that network as anti-American. I found them on the first page of a simple google search.
With regard to Qatar being a producer of oil, the argument is that Gore is profiting handsomely from the very substance which he has so demonized. People find the hypocrisy of that rather disturbing.
Trout (and Canookie): as usual you’re dodging the point.Gore isn’t being criticized because he sold his network and made money; there’s no problem with that. He’s being criticized because he’s such an despicable hypocrite.Let me reiterate what I wrote on the subject last week:Al Gore, who belongs to the party that vilifies the “1%”, is a member of that same “1%”, and sells his TV network for a cool $100 million or so. Classic limousine liberal; do as I say, not as I do.Al Gore, who undoubtedly claims to agree with Obozo’s raising the tax rates on the “1%”, rushed to finalize his sale so it’d close in 2012 so that Obozo’s nasty higher tax rates wouldn’t apply to him.Al Gore, who publicly vilifies “Big Oil”, sells out to a bunch of Middle Eastern tinpots who are financed by oil, oil and more oil.This is hypocrisy on a grand scale, even for a Democrat.
No, I said I thought it was bad because Qatar is a dictatorship. I was not linking Qatar and oil in the first item – I was linking Qatar and dictatorship. In the second item, I linked Gore the rabid environmentalist with oil production.But as a side note, one could take the transaction as a positive one since he “relieved” Qatar of all that money – I guess some would call it “blood money” since Al hates the product from which the money came.
The point you fail to see is if Al Gore should have waited until the tax hikes took place since he believes that the government can do the most good with money (what any liberal believes).
What Gore did is shelter his money, exactly the same thing that all the other 1% are doing. What happens when the tax revenues aren’t coming in? They go after the middle class who may not have enough funds to shelter.
Obama’s biggest success during his first term was increasing the amount of people getting government assistance. Think of how many people the extra tax Gore avoided would have paid? How much in food stamps? How much in welfare?
trm’s orignal point of “do as I say not as I do” applies to this whole situation. We will pay more in taxes because they won’t.
First, I did not say that Mitt “revealed loopholes”. I said that he used the tax code just the way it is written to avoid paying taxes – just the same as AG is trying to do. And then, I pointed out that AG did the same, but I see no negative comments from the same folks that did comment on MR doing the same thing. And, in the context of this discussion, the (presumably liberal) folks are still sticking up for AG’s actions. Personally, I’m fine with his actions – he is doing the smart thing – but it does seem to fly in the face of democratic ideals which is that the rich should pay as much as possible. Actually, I just heard the the deal did not go through until 1/2/13, so really that whole point is somewhat moot.
Second – well, I’m not sure what your second point is. You say “Romney was supposed to do business with dirty people”. I have to admit that you are certainly smarter than I, because I have no idea what that means. And, do you understand that AG is known as the ultimate environmentalist? Do you not understand the irony of him accepting money that was made totally from oil production? But,as I mentioned earlier, you can easily make the argument that him “relieving” QATAR of all that money is a positive thing.
Nobody is arguing regarding anyone’s intelligence or lack thereof. This is just a forum where we can express opinions and pretend we are going to change someone ease’s mind (never gonna happen – right?). Not sure about you, but I do not always spell check or edit my replies before hitting that submit button. This is all for fun -it is not intended to be a blood sport. And personally, I don’t even have a C+ game, let alone an A game.
Dtroutma over 11 years ago
Hmm, and Rupert just sold the NYSE, it hardly got a mention.
sw10mm over 11 years ago
Ahh, al the hypocrite. Thanks for staying true to your roots.
Dtroutma over 11 years ago
Wall Street Journal,, NYSE, are llnked. Last week they announced NYSE had been sold, but didn’t mention who SOLD it, just who bought it. I didn’t realize it COULD be bought and sold until Murdoch bought it.
Michael Peterson Premium Member over 11 years ago
Whoops. Now conservatives are AGAINST the free market.
Gosh, it’s so hard to keep up!
Dtroutma over 11 years ago
Tigger: CBS, ABC, NBC, even Fox, WSJ, NYTimes, Washington Post, LA Times, or lots of other “financial” sections of those things called “newspapers” and “media”, ARE sources other than giving “links”, which I hate seeing, or doing,especially when so many cited are “frauds” and totally biased on these pages.
Libertarian1 over 11 years ago
Rupert Murdoch had absolutely nothing, nada, zero to do with the NYSE. He never owned any part of it and obviously had nothing to do with selling it. One poster makes up things and thinks if he says them that makes it true.
The Gore reference was multi-purposeful. First as a “green” you shouldn’t encourage more dirty gas/oil usage and secondly he sold just before January 1, so he could pay at a lower tax rate. Both excellent business decisions but totally hypocritical. He should want to pay more taxes.
gordrogb Premium Member over 11 years ago
I think your comment is a tad off base. The toon is not about the butt load of money – it is about the facts that 1) Al Jazeera is owned by Qatar which is a dictatorship and is widely perceived to be of an anti-American bent, and 2) Qatar is one of the larger OIL producers – which should be the bane of fat boy’s existence.
gordrogb Premium Member over 11 years ago
You continue to interpret things which were not said/written. I made NO correlation between “buying a newspaper” and producing oil. I said Qatar was a DICTATORSHIP – and as you are well aware, those type of governments tend to slant their “news” in specific directions and may omit important details or fail to report relevant stories completely. Also, Al Jazeera is not just a newspaper – it is an entire news organization whose online presence is well known. I went to the Al Jazeera site and found it to be quite impressive and is certainly as fair and balanced as Fox. But what concerns people is that it can easily change because it is run by that Qatar government which is a dictatorship. You can easily find articles and sources citing that network as anti-American. I found them on the first page of a simple google search.
With regard to Qatar being a producer of oil, the argument is that Gore is profiting handsomely from the very substance which he has so demonized. People find the hypocrisy of that rather disturbing.
CorosiveFrog Premium Member over 11 years ago
A foreign broadcaster is allowed in the US, Get the holy water!
Net everyone in the World think like republicans. Live with it.
echoraven over 11 years ago
Nicely done!
trm over 11 years ago
Trout (and Canookie): as usual you’re dodging the point.Gore isn’t being criticized because he sold his network and made money; there’s no problem with that. He’s being criticized because he’s such an despicable hypocrite.Let me reiterate what I wrote on the subject last week:Al Gore, who belongs to the party that vilifies the “1%”, is a member of that same “1%”, and sells his TV network for a cool $100 million or so. Classic limousine liberal; do as I say, not as I do.Al Gore, who undoubtedly claims to agree with Obozo’s raising the tax rates on the “1%”, rushed to finalize his sale so it’d close in 2012 so that Obozo’s nasty higher tax rates wouldn’t apply to him.Al Gore, who publicly vilifies “Big Oil”, sells out to a bunch of Middle Eastern tinpots who are financed by oil, oil and more oil.This is hypocrisy on a grand scale, even for a Democrat.
gordrogb Premium Member over 11 years ago
No, I said I thought it was bad because Qatar is a dictatorship. I was not linking Qatar and oil in the first item – I was linking Qatar and dictatorship. In the second item, I linked Gore the rabid environmentalist with oil production.But as a side note, one could take the transaction as a positive one since he “relieved” Qatar of all that money – I guess some would call it “blood money” since Al hates the product from which the money came.
echoraven over 11 years ago
The point you fail to see is if Al Gore should have waited until the tax hikes took place since he believes that the government can do the most good with money (what any liberal believes).
What Gore did is shelter his money, exactly the same thing that all the other 1% are doing. What happens when the tax revenues aren’t coming in? They go after the middle class who may not have enough funds to shelter.
Obama’s biggest success during his first term was increasing the amount of people getting government assistance. Think of how many people the extra tax Gore avoided would have paid? How much in food stamps? How much in welfare?
trm’s orignal point of “do as I say not as I do” applies to this whole situation. We will pay more in taxes because they won’t.
gordrogb Premium Member over 11 years ago
First, I did not say that Mitt “revealed loopholes”. I said that he used the tax code just the way it is written to avoid paying taxes – just the same as AG is trying to do. And then, I pointed out that AG did the same, but I see no negative comments from the same folks that did comment on MR doing the same thing. And, in the context of this discussion, the (presumably liberal) folks are still sticking up for AG’s actions. Personally, I’m fine with his actions – he is doing the smart thing – but it does seem to fly in the face of democratic ideals which is that the rich should pay as much as possible. Actually, I just heard the the deal did not go through until 1/2/13, so really that whole point is somewhat moot.
Second – well, I’m not sure what your second point is. You say “Romney was supposed to do business with dirty people”. I have to admit that you are certainly smarter than I, because I have no idea what that means. And, do you understand that AG is known as the ultimate environmentalist? Do you not understand the irony of him accepting money that was made totally from oil production? But,as I mentioned earlier, you can easily make the argument that him “relieving” QATAR of all that money is a positive thing.
Nobody is arguing regarding anyone’s intelligence or lack thereof. This is just a forum where we can express opinions and pretend we are going to change someone ease’s mind (never gonna happen – right?). Not sure about you, but I do not always spell check or edit my replies before hitting that submit button. This is all for fun -it is not intended to be a blood sport. And personally, I don’t even have a C+ game, let alone an A game.