“Here’s an idea; ban assualt weapons, and back it up with assault weapons! Give the gun dealers a choice; voluntary surrender, or death! Apply to them the same ‘logic’ the NRA uses!”
And I presume by your logic we should just burn the Constitution and ignore the rulings of the Supreme Court? Of course it is much easier to sling insults and inflammatory remarks that do nothing but increase the divisiveness that exists in this country.
By the strict technical definitions military assault weapons are “automatic” weapons that can fire as a “machine gun or 3 shot bursts.” Trust me on this one from experience, accuracy on full auto from a shoulder fired rifle is horrible. Aside from that you dump a 30 round clip in about 3 seconds or less. The civilian version of the M-16 assault rifle originally was the AR-15 without the ability to fire full automatic or in 3 shot bursts. Now almost any rifle that emulates that design is considered an assault rifle.As to Skips comment about agreeing on design, it’s true. California Dept. of Justice solved that problem by mandating all new guns be submitted for examination (paid for by the manufacturers) before they can be sold here.. Believe me they aren’t lax about guns they approve…
The most “talented” and qualified shooters in the world go by the motto: “One shot, one kill”. They don’t NEED, or USE, “assault weapons”, rather bolt action rifles with bull barrels that carry a lot of weight for accuracy on a defined target.
So called “assault weapons” are for the angry, without training or talent, or ethical desire to be selective, or moral values on the use of deadly force ONLY on those who truly are “the enemy”. In combat, the purpose of these rifles on automatic, or semi, is to get the enemy to keep their heads down. Machine guns on automatic, are only for killing large numbers of targets, or to be fired from aircraft, where tracers allow you to “zero in” on where you are receiving fire from.
There simply is no rational “civilian” application for these “products”.
If you had published a text of the NRA speech before it was delivered on Friday, you would have been accused of distorting the NRA’s position and ridiculing them, since they would never say something that stupid.
^ What makes you think the NRA is run as a democracy? -Maybe an NRA member can explain how the organization works, but I’m betting the average publically held corporation has more shareholder democracy than the NRA.
man, there really is no hope is there? Surely you guys see the benefits to society in removing assault weapons fromt he public?
Its really hard sitting over here on the other side of the world watching a fair few Americans clinging to a document created back in the cow boy days when assault rifles didn’t even exist…
Times have chnaged guys, we’re not cow boys anymore ok!!!!
William Bednar Premium Member over 11 years ago
Three? Can you find even ONE wise man/woman in the GOP?
Technojunkie over 11 years ago
http://www.michaelzwilliamson.com/blog/item/why-the-assault-weapon-ban-failed-and-a-new-one-would-too
Mickey 13 over 11 years ago
“Here’s an idea; ban assualt weapons, and back it up with assault weapons! Give the gun dealers a choice; voluntary surrender, or death! Apply to them the same ‘logic’ the NRA uses!”
And I presume by your logic we should just burn the Constitution and ignore the rulings of the Supreme Court? Of course it is much easier to sling insults and inflammatory remarks that do nothing but increase the divisiveness that exists in this country.
Mickey 13 over 11 years ago
“No, but you did steal the identity of Matt Damon. How wise was that?”
Hmmmmm. Let me think about that. Oh, okay, WHO CARES!!!
What are you, twelve? Your intellectual level of comments keeps decreasing as time goes on and they weren’t to relevant to begin with.
Mickey 13 over 11 years ago
By the strict technical definitions military assault weapons are “automatic” weapons that can fire as a “machine gun or 3 shot bursts.” Trust me on this one from experience, accuracy on full auto from a shoulder fired rifle is horrible. Aside from that you dump a 30 round clip in about 3 seconds or less. The civilian version of the M-16 assault rifle originally was the AR-15 without the ability to fire full automatic or in 3 shot bursts. Now almost any rifle that emulates that design is considered an assault rifle.As to Skips comment about agreeing on design, it’s true. California Dept. of Justice solved that problem by mandating all new guns be submitted for examination (paid for by the manufacturers) before they can be sold here.. Believe me they aren’t lax about guns they approve…
Dtroutma over 11 years ago
The most “talented” and qualified shooters in the world go by the motto: “One shot, one kill”. They don’t NEED, or USE, “assault weapons”, rather bolt action rifles with bull barrels that carry a lot of weight for accuracy on a defined target.
So called “assault weapons” are for the angry, without training or talent, or ethical desire to be selective, or moral values on the use of deadly force ONLY on those who truly are “the enemy”. In combat, the purpose of these rifles on automatic, or semi, is to get the enemy to keep their heads down. Machine guns on automatic, are only for killing large numbers of targets, or to be fired from aircraft, where tracers allow you to “zero in” on where you are receiving fire from.
There simply is no rational “civilian” application for these “products”.
braindead Premium Member over 11 years ago
If you had published a text of the NRA speech before it was delivered on Friday, you would have been accused of distorting the NRA’s position and ridiculing them, since they would never say something that stupid.
Mickey 13 over 11 years ago
“and how is this related to any of my posts?”
It wasn’t. braindead08 asked me a question about the Ca. D.O.J. and it was an answer to him…
braindead Premium Member over 11 years ago
^ What makes you think the NRA is run as a democracy? -Maybe an NRA member can explain how the organization works, but I’m betting the average publically held corporation has more shareholder democracy than the NRA.
todervico over 11 years ago
man, there really is no hope is there? Surely you guys see the benefits to society in removing assault weapons fromt he public?
Its really hard sitting over here on the other side of the world watching a fair few Americans clinging to a document created back in the cow boy days when assault rifles didn’t even exist…
Times have chnaged guys, we’re not cow boys anymore ok!!!!
Stop killing each other!!
Mneedle over 11 years ago
So……you know nothing about the ideas of the NRA. Igno range is a large shield.