Henry Payne for December 14, 2012

Yep!

Ditto!

If the ‘non-union’ workers don’t half to pay dues… Do they get to make ‘non-union’ wages and benefits?

Yep, everyone knows is was right-to-work that took down Hostess! Oh, wait a minute—

Don’t forget the union thugs who trashed someone’s hot dog cart because he had customers from the RTW faction.

Yeah. That’s exactly what happened. Unions are running rampant, destroying the economy, getting rid of jobs, cutting benefits..And of course, they’re all 1950’s style angry white men..Yep. That’s how this is playing out..Accurately.

From my 35 years inside factories, I will testify that unions are indeed necessary. Focus on wages and closing the bakery ignores the good unions do.What “good”? Plant safety, promotions and equal rights. All workers are represented but “Right To Work” means that some get a free ride.

Fewer than 8% of American workers are still in unions, so where is this huge “threat” ??

dred i can say this as a LOGICAL thinker. If a person wants to commit a CRIME they WILL NOT OBEY THE LAW. They will find any means to commit said crimes. Gun Control LAWS hinder people who are law abiding citizens. some people say that noone but the government should have guns. then the criminals will get what they want and do what they want. regardless of whether or not it is against the law.

Remember in a country of roughly 300 million people that we should use examples brought upon by <10 to decide what is wrong with 150 million people. Heck lets copy that to test scores, Class average 52% but there is one student getting 100%, Therefore the class is the peak of education standards globally. An instant success in revamping the school system

Who says commited criminals? i never said a word about that. If a person wants to commit a crime they will do what ever they think is nessicary to do it. regardless of what anyone says. and rf signals. huh? since when does a FIREARM MADE IN 1947 have anything like that. what about a 1911 pistol? nothing like rf in it to keep a bullet from firing. Also I dont support criminal behavior nor do i support crazy ANTI gun nuts who think the world would be better if there were no guns. SO would the world be better? maybe, but what about cars then, the world would be better without them because more people die behind the wheel every day than get shot. however i dont think that it will solve anything. CRIME FINDS A WAY REGARDLESS OF THE LAWS ON THE BOOKS. we try to stop things from going into iran, we sanction them. ITS A FREAKING PEICE OF PAPER!!! KEEP in mind that the person in aurora may have also gotten his arms from someone else, or bought them illegally. Who can say for sure. EVEN THEN if you have gun control our STUPID government cant properly do it. LOOK at the border agent killed by the guns that were sent to cartels in mexico. Those guns were legally sold and approved BY the idiots in our current government. ALL OF THEM. I can understand your side of the arguement however keep in mind that even if you have prohibition on ALCOHOL there will still be those who try to get around it…. Keep an open mind. I know several people with kids the age of those in todays incident. It horrifies me to think about it. just remember everyone is entitled to think what they want. so dont be an jerk to others who are EXPRESSING THEIR OPINION JUST LIKE YOU!

you think you know me and can read me oh GREAT wise one? haha really funny you seem to have missed my POINT! I was simply using examples to define what you seem to KEEP missing again and again! paper and laws solve nothing at all. yes i know what i said about the crime however this person didnt obey the law did he? So what does it matter if it was antique gun, new gun, laser gun, death star laser whatever, i just trying to prove my point that law or no law about control of guns will not have solved this. people go around the laws. again i will remind you of prohibition. gee there was alcohol made then. crime ruins lives, ive seen it. ive delt with it. lost friends to it. however even if there was a LAW to prevent someone from haveing a gun it would not stop them in the first place if they wanted to hurt someone with it. that is my point. you must be more flustered than i am. i was just trying to point out another point of view. if you dont want to look out another window thats your buisness. But you might actually find out something different. and NO i dont want to derail the dissucsion if you look at the info on this page at the top YOU did before i did so its your court now. i can be civil or run you over either way. just remember your not the only one.

…but that still leaves the matter of the destroyed hot dog cart and the destroyed tent.

As a conservative who has had the liberal bs crammed down my throat for the past few years i am not talking about making cars illegal im simply refering to the fact that anyone who wants to commit a crime be it murder or otherwise wont be stopped by a freaking lawIm very familiar with law and saying things are bad and making a law about gun control Will not make a person change their moral choices in life. Thats my point you leftist nimrod. You make your choices

and calling someone a snot nosed brat wet behind the ears really? As much as id like to put this in to context with crayons for your readability i wont talk down to someone who thinks they can read someone from a few conversations. ill have you know that i understand the argument for control however the point im trying to make to YOU for the millionth time is that criminals will be criminals nothing more. Be it first offense or 50th. You really think that a law would have kept the incident from happening today? what else do you believe in? We know nothing about the shooter today. How many laws had he broken before the school. all a firearm is to someone is a tool. Like a knife, a car, a bomb etc, nothing but tools. my point with iran was we have laws with the UN to keep them from trying to make a nuke and what has it gotten us? not a damn thing. rinse and repeat for n. korea. and if guns kill people then pencils misspell words. Certainly there are other issues here that we do not know yet. and yet you people scream guns are evil. but what if you were in the same situation and had one to protect yourself? what would you do? Ive seen both sides of the coin. im a hell of a lot older than you think. about 10 years ago there was an incident in china with a sword that was used on children in a school. what about the towers in new york? that was a plane. its a TOOL that was used by someone. People should be held accountable but just because a person owns a firearm doesnt mean that they will use to hurt other people. and criminals who want something bad enough will do whatever it takes to make it happen. This will be my last post for this because i can see that no matter what i say you will only see your vision of a perfect “society.” Experts agree gun control works- those experts include hitler, stalin, and mousellini. i do what i think is right not what is easiest. i like the name you chose for the site by the way and hope that you have a happy holiday. Im a believer in keeping and open mind so that i dont judge something to quickly.

did everyone forget what happened this year about the nfl referees? that replacement refs made bad calls(green bay game). the outcry was so bad, that the nfl got the unionized refs back.

Stay on point tool, the protesters in Michigan were not threatening those that responded violently, the only strawman was your response.

But then again by the duel standard you apply here. It’s just typical.

Oh, and the meme of anyone who disagrees with your point of view that they are “intolerant and racist” just points to the fact that your argument is weak and you need to resort to ad hominem attacks in order to feel better.

Oh, and nice hijack of the thread addressing the union thugs attack on peaceful protests in Michigan.

Try to stay on topic troll, take the gun control rant to one of the editorials dealing with the shooting.

Crowder instigated the tearing down of a tent? Really, by speaking his mind in front of a group who disagrees?Again with the duel standard, what followed was seriously stupid on the part of both sides, but it doesn’t excuse the unions thugs attempting to tear down and remove an opposing viewpoint from the scene of the protest. I understand your desire to support the first amendment only for your POV, but it doesn’t work like that.My reading comprehension is just fine thanks, your repeating of Daily Kos talking points does not make you even remotely intelligent, just a tool.Less going on? Laughable, you seem to have plenty of time to sit by and respond to my post, within less then an hour of my posting. Obviously you have nothing to do, but you still couldn’t “kick you patootie.”As I’ve said elsewhere about others of your ilk, you are what is known as a useful idiot, and remember, Google is your friend.

Workers in “right to work (for peanuts)” states are much weaker than unionized workers. A Good Cartoon.

On “defense”: while difficult to track down (NRA hates the facts) in cases where folks attempt to defend themselves with a gun, against an armed assailant: over 90% end up getting shot themselves, not always fatal, but they DO get shot! There isn’t a human being on earth who can draw a weapon from a holster, or from under a counter, faster than an assailant pointing a weapon can pull the trigger, period.

In D.C. it was the armed security guard who got shot at the holocaust museum. It is typically the cops who get shot “defending” people, fortunately, bullet resistant vests have saved many lives, which is why it’s unfortunate that the “bad guys”, like in the latest shooting incident, can easily buy them.

“Macho Man” movies, like “Commando”, a classically idiotic film, that show the “good guy” mowing down the bad guys with a pistol, while the bad guys are behind cover, with fully automatic rifles, gives the NRA their talking points, to morons.