As a society we need to get rid of the retrograde atrocity that is Taft-Hartley and the Orwellian nonsense of “right to work”. If anyone is happy about what happened in Michigan and the anti-democratic process involved, they have a serious mental health problem.
Yeah, prfesser, and in those states the workers make an average of $1500 less a year and 2.5% fewer workers have health care. Exactly what is it you’re cheering about?
I saw on the Internet that eight of the ten states with the highest poverty rates are “right-to-work” states. This supposedly comes from the U.S. Census Bureau. Has anybody else seen this, and is it factual?
“Right to work” just equals lower wages and benefits, while increasing profits for CEOs and “investor class”. That these states have lower standards of living does make “anti-union” companies relocating, and still seeming to be “the good guys”, is not discussed. Yes, it is like importing a little bit of China to the poor states, and the jobs ARE “good” compared to what’s available, but lowering the standard in higher standard states, may not be “great”?
Do “labor rights” include the right to join a union or not to join? I know libs like to think people are too dub to choose for themselves, but if a union is in the best interest for a worker, he will still join. Now he just has a choice.
Mickey1339: If that was the choice of Michiganders, why did the Retrogressers ram though the law without due process before they lost their majority with the most recent expression of the will of the people in January?
“According to the BLS link, except for the current oil boom states at the top 5, the “Right to Work” in a state doesn’t amount to a hill of beans.Therefore, your argument is invalid.”
Get out your calculator before you make such rash statements Matt. I created a spreadsheet just with the BLS data you provided and more from their website. BTW, you characterized Arkansas incorrectly, it is a right to work state. Results are simple averages:Right to work states unemployment rate 7.0 %Non right to work 7.6%
What looks insignificant on the surface isn’t. The difference between the two numbers is 8%. When you apply that difference to the 12 million unemployed, it would mean 960,000 people would be employed that currently aren’t…
Cracks me up…..poor people kissing the Koch Birther’s backsides…..because they hope “some day” to be rich……face it ladies, the rich ain’t giving you ANYTHING but TROUBLE.
Peabody-Martini over 11 years ago
As a society we need to get rid of the retrograde atrocity that is Taft-Hartley and the Orwellian nonsense of “right to work”. If anyone is happy about what happened in Michigan and the anti-democratic process involved, they have a serious mental health problem.
mimismom over 11 years ago
Yeah, prfesser, and in those states the workers make an average of $1500 less a year and 2.5% fewer workers have health care. Exactly what is it you’re cheering about?
Rickapolis over 11 years ago
The real tragedy is that the Koch brothers will LIKE this representation.
derlehrer over 11 years ago
I saw on the Internet that eight of the ten states with the highest poverty rates are “right-to-work” states. This supposedly comes from the U.S. Census Bureau. Has anybody else seen this, and is it factual?
Dtroutma over 11 years ago
“Right to work” just equals lower wages and benefits, while increasing profits for CEOs and “investor class”. That these states have lower standards of living does make “anti-union” companies relocating, and still seeming to be “the good guys”, is not discussed. Yes, it is like importing a little bit of China to the poor states, and the jobs ARE “good” compared to what’s available, but lowering the standard in higher standard states, may not be “great”?
ConserveGov over 11 years ago
Do “labor rights” include the right to join a union or not to join? I know libs like to think people are too dub to choose for themselves, but if a union is in the best interest for a worker, he will still join. Now he just has a choice.
hippogriff over 11 years ago
Mickey1339: If that was the choice of Michiganders, why did the Retrogressers ram though the law without due process before they lost their majority with the most recent expression of the will of the people in January?
Justice22 over 11 years ago
Sorry! I think you mean the turn of the last century, 1901….????
Thomas Devers Premium Member over 11 years ago
Amen to that!
Mickey 13 over 11 years ago
“According to the BLS link, except for the current oil boom states at the top 5, the “Right to Work” in a state doesn’t amount to a hill of beans.Therefore, your argument is invalid.”
Get out your calculator before you make such rash statements Matt. I created a spreadsheet just with the BLS data you provided and more from their website. BTW, you characterized Arkansas incorrectly, it is a right to work state. Results are simple averages:Right to work states unemployment rate 7.0 %Non right to work 7.6%
What looks insignificant on the surface isn’t. The difference between the two numbers is 8%. When you apply that difference to the 12 million unemployed, it would mean 960,000 people would be employed that currently aren’t…
dectra over 11 years ago
Cracks me up…..poor people kissing the Koch Birther’s backsides…..because they hope “some day” to be rich……face it ladies, the rich ain’t giving you ANYTHING but TROUBLE.
derlehrer over 11 years ago
Note: I was chomping at the bit, but Pussycat is on my list of trolls and…