Tough call on this issue. Although union workers often make more than their non-union counterparts, there are dues to pay which will eat up some of that. Also, striking union workers do not make too much during the strike, so overall it’s hard to know which is the better answer. Of course, if employers would be honorable, unions would be unnecessary. I’ll hold my breath.
The intent of these laws is NOT to just provide “open shop” where you don’t HAVE to join the union, but rather to ban unions all together. The real benefits of unions over the year though, have been safer working conditions, and RIGHTS recognized to be treated as a human being. Hmmm, will SCOTUS now say that corporations can’t “organize” to monopolize industries as they’re just “persons”??
The middle class needs to pay better attention to the GOP’s hatred of workers. The GOP is anti-union because they hate giving workers benefits, like minimal pay, vacation time, maternity benefits, and health care.
The FLSA is a direct result of union activity and power. -Unions can and do overreach and get too much power, as in the case of California public employees, but the entire work force, including management, has benefited from unions. The 40 hour work week, overtime, job classifications and structures, vacation, sick leave, retirement, are all union introduced issues, along with others I can’t remember right now. -Job creators hate all of these. They prefer the free job markets of Bangladesh.-BTW, these issues are all SOCIALIST ideas. I hope none of the Fox “news” viewers on these boards are burdened with any of them.
Yes, how come after the last time the Hostess workers gave wage and benefit concessions, and the management handed out $300,000 in bonuses and raises to themselves, they weren’t willing to do it again? If only there hadn’t been a union, the cuts could have been deeper and the workers put on food stamps like at WalMart, and the bonuses could have been much, much larger. It’s SO much smoother when all of the power is with capital.
Blaming the unions for the demise of Hostess, or for that matter just about any other company is willful blindness. Hostess was doomed by mismanagement and a marketing department that didn’t keep up with the times. Changing consumer tastes and smarter competitors made the operation unprofitable. If the unions caved in, it wouldn’t have saved Hostess. When your main brands are considered nostalgic, your company is in big trouble.
Union workers make more than enough to offset the cost of union dues. Losing some pay to a strike is better than losing your job because you are considered too old or the new boss hates people whose names begin with “T”.http://blogs.ajc.com/business-beat/2012/12/12/across-the-board-union-workers-get-higher-pay/?cxntfid=blogs_business_beat
I Play One On TV over 11 years ago
Tough call on this issue. Although union workers often make more than their non-union counterparts, there are dues to pay which will eat up some of that. Also, striking union workers do not make too much during the strike, so overall it’s hard to know which is the better answer. Of course, if employers would be honorable, unions would be unnecessary. I’ll hold my breath.
Dtroutma over 11 years ago
The intent of these laws is NOT to just provide “open shop” where you don’t HAVE to join the union, but rather to ban unions all together. The real benefits of unions over the year though, have been safer working conditions, and RIGHTS recognized to be treated as a human being. Hmmm, will SCOTUS now say that corporations can’t “organize” to monopolize industries as they’re just “persons”??
ninety_nine_percent over 11 years ago
The middle class needs to pay better attention to the GOP’s hatred of workers. The GOP is anti-union because they hate giving workers benefits, like minimal pay, vacation time, maternity benefits, and health care.
braindead Premium Member over 11 years ago
The FLSA is a direct result of union activity and power. -Unions can and do overreach and get too much power, as in the case of California public employees, but the entire work force, including management, has benefited from unions. The 40 hour work week, overtime, job classifications and structures, vacation, sick leave, retirement, are all union introduced issues, along with others I can’t remember right now. -Job creators hate all of these. They prefer the free job markets of Bangladesh.-BTW, these issues are all SOCIALIST ideas. I hope none of the Fox “news” viewers on these boards are burdened with any of them.
ARodney over 11 years ago
Yes, how come after the last time the Hostess workers gave wage and benefit concessions, and the management handed out $300,000 in bonuses and raises to themselves, they weren’t willing to do it again? If only there hadn’t been a union, the cuts could have been deeper and the workers put on food stamps like at WalMart, and the bonuses could have been much, much larger. It’s SO much smoother when all of the power is with capital.
Thomas Devers Premium Member over 11 years ago
Yes, because one knows capital knows what is best for the workers…….
Uncle Joe Premium Member over 11 years ago
Blaming the unions for the demise of Hostess, or for that matter just about any other company is willful blindness. Hostess was doomed by mismanagement and a marketing department that didn’t keep up with the times. Changing consumer tastes and smarter competitors made the operation unprofitable. If the unions caved in, it wouldn’t have saved Hostess. When your main brands are considered nostalgic, your company is in big trouble.
Uncle Joe Premium Member over 11 years ago
Union workers make more than enough to offset the cost of union dues. Losing some pay to a strike is better than losing your job because you are considered too old or the new boss hates people whose names begin with “T”.http://blogs.ajc.com/business-beat/2012/12/12/across-the-board-union-workers-get-higher-pay/?cxntfid=blogs_business_beat