Clay Bennett for November 23, 2012

Yes, and with guns, bombs and rockets.

Hmm, and to think, things were actually far more “peaceful” overall, under the Ottoman’s. It took European (and "American) intervention to really “screw the pooch”.

I can be pretty critical of Israeli policy, but it’s hard to see that what they are doing is at all comparable to what Hitler did. I don’t see any evidence of “final solution” in Israeli policy. And I also wouldn’t equate Israel with “the Jewish people”.

Israel is in exactly the same position that we have found ourselves in several times in the past. She is prevented from resolving the problem once and for all. Her opponent knows this, so all HamAss need do is hold on and begin again later. So HamAss agree to a truce until they can recuperate then they start in again, Then another truce. Then begin again. Ad infinitum ad nausuem.

@red…“Now what are the Jewish people trying to do to the Arabs? It looks an awful lot like genocide…..”-FYI the Hebrew-Jewish people founded modern Israel, returning in the prophesied world-wide regathering by God to the Promised Land of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. The world and the Jews called it the Zionist movement, the Return…aliya.-The Arabs (a small number) and a remnant of Jews had been living side by side….the Jews moved into a neglected land oppressed by the Ottoman Empire until 1917…Mark Twain visited and called it “A Waste Land”….Jews bought up land and began restoring it into a blooming desert.-Then more Arabs moved in and began fighting the Jews. In 1947 the UN offered mandate lands not given to Jordan previously, be split into 2 states, 1 state for Jews and 1 state for Arabs. The Arabs rejected statehood because they cannot acknowledge the existence of a Jewish State.-Arabs began war after war against Israel….May 1948 the first and again 1956, 1967 (when Israeli Jews captured Jerusalem which had been ruled by Jordan since 1948)and war again in 1973. In between the Arabs under Arafat and the PLO carried out aggression against the Jews.-The only “Genocide” being tried in Palestine is the Extermination of Jews by Arabs. The Jews have not threatened or aggressed in a genocide of Arabs. Jews have defended Israel. Jews do much to keep the Perpetual “Refugees” since 1948 provided with water and power and medical care, etc. The Arab states, rich and with much more land than Israel has, deliberately do not take refugees to become citizens in Arab states, not even in Jordan that was cut out of the Mandated Lands in an unfair award by Britain before the UN took over.….it is false accusation to say that Jews are trying to do genocide against Arabs.

hamAss has declared genocide intent on Israel. hamAss uses rockets because they cannot get to unarmed Israel civilians to kill directly. The Israel Wall seems to be working. I suggest Israel turn the Egypt- Gaza border into a demilitarized zone and dig a 200 foot deep trench all the way to the sea with a border-crossing bridge. Tunnels going under the trench will have air quality issues.

Choices for dealing with the bad behavior of Gaza (remember that Palestinians approve of their leaders):ContainmentDeportationExterminationSince Israel has ‘issues’ with extermination, let’s forget about the extermination option.Since there does not seem to be a way to keep missiles out of Gaza and hamAss has every intention on using them again, let’s forget about the containment option.Since Arab and Muslim countries have proven that they will not allow Palestinians into their land, let’s forget about the deportation option.Since there are no more options, let’s just bulldoze the buildings in Gaza and give them tents.

And the deal included the removal of the missiles from Cuba and from Turkey. Of course that all became beside the point with the development of ICBMs.

First, your dealing with a 4F who will never talk sense.Second, aren’t you being just a little judgmental re the US? of course, they paint themselves in the most favorable light. Name me a country (or other group) that doesn’t.

Ignore the 4f. You have as much right to question as we have to criticize Israel or Iran. I do however worry that you are expecting too much of mankind in general.

Lonecat: the deal also included Laos going to the “communist” side, and resistance stopping.

I’ve never called anyone a troll. There are posters I try to ignore, but I don’t call them trolls.

My uncle never married. He spent his life looking for the perfect woman. He found her, too. Unfortunately,she was looking for the perfect man.

You are most generous. I can supply you with at least half a dozen other that meet my definition, but to each his own.