If he feels like he still wants to make a difference, he can go knocking on the doors of 47%ers and ask them to please donate to the billionaires’ fund. Pretty much all he was going to do as president.
IF President Obama really wished to do as you state (which I very much doubt), and IF he also had control (or at least the Democrats had control) of the majority in the House of Representatives, and IF he also had a super majority in the Senate of at least 60 Democrat Senators, and IF he had control of a majority on the Supreme Court, THEN your constant crying about his destroying the USA might just have some credence to it.
But that is both a far higher value of ifs, and far too many ifs to be creditable!!
The USA is FAR too large and strong an entity for ANY administration to kill, in even eight years! If you can not live with that, then might I suggest that you find some other place more suited to your particular form of distemper?
For many of the more moderate on these boards you and those like you have a tendency to grow really tiresome in your constant moaning and groaning about not only the President of the USA, but may times the USA itself!
Yes President Obama is not perfect, and yes he makes mistakes, just as any other human being does. Further, even those of us that support him do NOT consider him a God in any way, he just as human (and has shown that in both good and bad ways) as any of the rest of us.
Heck, even GW Bush was far more likable ( I opposed many of his policies, and even liked some of his policies) than Mitt Romney, and it is that very likability that is also one of the greatest of the reasons that President Obama will still be president for the next four years. Once again, please just get over that, so the rest of us can discuss issues without all this constant carping!!!
“Mitt is the real winner. America is the real loser.”That’s right! I’m still incredibly rich and Obama is still going to do at least 75% of the same things I would. Labor rights will continue to erode unless people wake up. The more teeth we pull from the beast of labor, the more I can kick that worthless dog. Stupid dog, get in your box on the roof of the car and quit whining!Umm, where was I? God help us rich guys, if actual socialists got any power in this country.
“How the useless media cries when the light of truth is shined on the “takers” by the “makers”….”And as long as I can convince you that the rich are the makers, rather than the middle class who actually produce and consume almost everything that makes our economy go, you’ve been taken!
Perhaps both more extreme positions are wrong (as is usually the case for the truth).This country needs both the wealthy to provide wealth to be makers, and the working middle class (who are also the makers). Who must NOT be so underpaid in both wages and benefits as to not be able to also be the largest consuming class.
The relatively modest increases in allowing the GW Bush tax cuts to expire for such as millionaires are indeed needed. And there is the revenue compromise to raise the threshold for the modest “increase” of what were supposedly “temporary” cuts in taxes back to the their original 4% increase of those temporary tax cuts is NOT going to even inconvenience the wealthy and super wealthy, let alone drive them to no longer invest in that which eventually makes them even more wealthy.
But, while making judicious and reasonable cuts in both non entitlement and even some entitlement governmental expenditures is also necessary to bring deficit spending under control, such control can NOT in all fairness be made without some such reasonable increases in governmental revenue (taxes). And those taxes can not be gotten from the already topped out middle class and working poor. But as the wealthy and super wealthy have gotten far wealthier during the last 30 years or so (sometimes at the expense of the middle class) then it is entirely fair that such wealth be taxed more for the benefit of not only others, but even in the long run to those very wealthy themselves. I have noticed where such extremely wealthy as Warren Buffet and Bill Gates and other wiser super wealthy are not in any way adverse to such an increase in their taxation!
‘No question that Mitt and the GOP blew this election in literally every respect…However, having said that, I know of no candidate – real or imagined – that could have denied Obama this election. Historically, the incumbent always has a huge advantage. Evan Jimmy Carter had an advantage, but the economy, the Iranian hostage debacle and the singular communication skills of Reagan – not to mention his likeability – carried the day.Obama carried a thick portfolio of failure into his quest for re-election…but he also had several unique and solid advantages that enabled his relatively narrow, but decisive win. He had the minorities on his side – blacks, Latinos, women. He had the unions on his side. He had his own unique role as that of America’s first black president…And the nation’s economy – usually able to trump all other variables – was showing just enough of a hint of slight (and weak) recovery in the run-up to the election that it really wasn’t the over-riding factor it might have been. In the end, the outcome was anti-climatic, and obvious pretty early…Romney may well have been the best of the GOP candidate crop for 2012, but he was far from being enough to win. He’s a good man, a good husband and a good father. He was not a good candidate. He was too stiff, too rich, to out of touch, and could not make a connection with any of the constituencies needed for victory…America has changed so dramatically…politics, parties and candidates must be able to change and evolve as well, in order to remain relevant. I am very concerned about the next four years, and those years that will follow this second term of Obama. There are huge deficiencies in his leadership, and his administration…and I am going on record that I firmly believe things will get worse – much worse – before they can get better (IF they can get better…) If anyone really believes that this administration is what’s best for America because they were re-elected, that is a dangerous delusion. I know full well many would respond, “What? You’d rather have Romney?…” Well, I don’t know what a President Romney would have done…just like tens of millions didn’t know what Obama would do when they gave him their votes in 2008. Now we know part of the picture, but the future is filled with peril. What I really wish is that America was given a better set of choices in 2008, AND in 2012. Unfortunately, that rarely happens. The rule of the “lesser of two evils” is alive and fully functioning, I’m afraid. God only knows what the election of 2016 will bring for America…an’ even more troubling…if the election of 2016 will even matter…
rockngolfer over 11 years ago
Even Barbara Bush wants Mitt to shut his pie hole and move on.
Chillbilly over 11 years ago
If he feels like he still wants to make a difference, he can go knocking on the doors of 47%ers and ask them to please donate to the billionaires’ fund. Pretty much all he was going to do as president.
DOUGLAS G THOMAS Premium Member over 11 years ago
Ima, I’m sorry you can’t get beyond denial, but the rest of America will just have to leave you behind: Your guy lost.
thegreatack over 11 years ago
FAILED!!!
thegreatack over 11 years ago
OSTRICH!!!
zekedog55 over 11 years ago
Oh yeah, he is a REAL winner.
Gotta love your inverse world, BOO-HOO Queen…
zekedog55 over 11 years ago
I can see you on the lifeboat early on…
You know, the one for women and children.
No worries, just don’t look the real men in the eyes as you are lowered to safety—-
greycheck over 11 years ago
Maybe keep this mind for the next four years:
Megyn Kelly, Fox News host to Karl Rove: “You keep saying that, but he won, Karl. He won.”
frodo1008 over 11 years ago
IF President Obama really wished to do as you state (which I very much doubt), and IF he also had control (or at least the Democrats had control) of the majority in the House of Representatives, and IF he also had a super majority in the Senate of at least 60 Democrat Senators, and IF he had control of a majority on the Supreme Court, THEN your constant crying about his destroying the USA might just have some credence to it.
But that is both a far higher value of ifs, and far too many ifs to be creditable!!
The USA is FAR too large and strong an entity for ANY administration to kill, in even eight years! If you can not live with that, then might I suggest that you find some other place more suited to your particular form of distemper?
For many of the more moderate on these boards you and those like you have a tendency to grow really tiresome in your constant moaning and groaning about not only the President of the USA, but may times the USA itself!
Yes President Obama is not perfect, and yes he makes mistakes, just as any other human being does. Further, even those of us that support him do NOT consider him a God in any way, he just as human (and has shown that in both good and bad ways) as any of the rest of us.
Heck, even GW Bush was far more likable ( I opposed many of his policies, and even liked some of his policies) than Mitt Romney, and it is that very likability that is also one of the greatest of the reasons that President Obama will still be president for the next four years. Once again, please just get over that, so the rest of us can discuss issues without all this constant carping!!!
Uncle Joe Premium Member over 11 years ago
“Mitt is the real winner. America is the real loser.”That’s right! I’m still incredibly rich and Obama is still going to do at least 75% of the same things I would. Labor rights will continue to erode unless people wake up. The more teeth we pull from the beast of labor, the more I can kick that worthless dog. Stupid dog, get in your box on the roof of the car and quit whining!Umm, where was I? God help us rich guys, if actual socialists got any power in this country.
Uncle Joe Premium Member over 11 years ago
“How the useless media cries when the light of truth is shined on the “takers” by the “makers”….”And as long as I can convince you that the rich are the makers, rather than the middle class who actually produce and consume almost everything that makes our economy go, you’ve been taken!
frodo1008 over 11 years ago
Perhaps both more extreme positions are wrong (as is usually the case for the truth).This country needs both the wealthy to provide wealth to be makers, and the working middle class (who are also the makers). Who must NOT be so underpaid in both wages and benefits as to not be able to also be the largest consuming class.
The relatively modest increases in allowing the GW Bush tax cuts to expire for such as millionaires are indeed needed. And there is the revenue compromise to raise the threshold for the modest “increase” of what were supposedly “temporary” cuts in taxes back to the their original 4% increase of those temporary tax cuts is NOT going to even inconvenience the wealthy and super wealthy, let alone drive them to no longer invest in that which eventually makes them even more wealthy.
But, while making judicious and reasonable cuts in both non entitlement and even some entitlement governmental expenditures is also necessary to bring deficit spending under control, such control can NOT in all fairness be made without some such reasonable increases in governmental revenue (taxes). And those taxes can not be gotten from the already topped out middle class and working poor. But as the wealthy and super wealthy have gotten far wealthier during the last 30 years or so (sometimes at the expense of the middle class) then it is entirely fair that such wealth be taxed more for the benefit of not only others, but even in the long run to those very wealthy themselves. I have noticed where such extremely wealthy as Warren Buffet and Bill Gates and other wiser super wealthy are not in any way adverse to such an increase in their taxation!
braindead Premium Member over 11 years ago
I protest the characterization of Romney as a turkey!-He is a ChickenHawk!
nanellen over 11 years ago
Well, Obama is certainly no Eagle! Seems like we al have to suffer for another four years and hope that someone emerges who can really lead.
Rickapolis over 11 years ago
How long before the losers stop crying?
DOUGLAS G THOMAS Premium Member over 11 years ago
@HOWGOZIT ~ You are entitled to your opinion.
pam Miner over 11 years ago
Wow. No it hasn’t even shut him up.
wronhewitt over 11 years ago
‘No question that Mitt and the GOP blew this election in literally every respect…However, having said that, I know of no candidate – real or imagined – that could have denied Obama this election. Historically, the incumbent always has a huge advantage. Evan Jimmy Carter had an advantage, but the economy, the Iranian hostage debacle and the singular communication skills of Reagan – not to mention his likeability – carried the day.Obama carried a thick portfolio of failure into his quest for re-election…but he also had several unique and solid advantages that enabled his relatively narrow, but decisive win. He had the minorities on his side – blacks, Latinos, women. He had the unions on his side. He had his own unique role as that of America’s first black president…And the nation’s economy – usually able to trump all other variables – was showing just enough of a hint of slight (and weak) recovery in the run-up to the election that it really wasn’t the over-riding factor it might have been. In the end, the outcome was anti-climatic, and obvious pretty early…Romney may well have been the best of the GOP candidate crop for 2012, but he was far from being enough to win. He’s a good man, a good husband and a good father. He was not a good candidate. He was too stiff, too rich, to out of touch, and could not make a connection with any of the constituencies needed for victory…America has changed so dramatically…politics, parties and candidates must be able to change and evolve as well, in order to remain relevant. I am very concerned about the next four years, and those years that will follow this second term of Obama. There are huge deficiencies in his leadership, and his administration…and I am going on record that I firmly believe things will get worse – much worse – before they can get better (IF they can get better…) If anyone really believes that this administration is what’s best for America because they were re-elected, that is a dangerous delusion. I know full well many would respond, “What? You’d rather have Romney?…” Well, I don’t know what a President Romney would have done…just like tens of millions didn’t know what Obama would do when they gave him their votes in 2008. Now we know part of the picture, but the future is filled with peril. What I really wish is that America was given a better set of choices in 2008, AND in 2012. Unfortunately, that rarely happens. The rule of the “lesser of two evils” is alive and fully functioning, I’m afraid. God only knows what the election of 2016 will bring for America…an’ even more troubling…if the election of 2016 will even matter…