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  1. believecommonsense

    believecommonsenseGenius_badge said, 9 months ago

    not funny, Clay, bit too hateful and ugly for me … shame on you …. bet you and RushtheClown are buddies …

    ‘nother thing is I’d like to hear some facts about all this ‘pork’ … i keep hearing about pork but no one substantiates the claim with facts … i want some facts not just yelling “pork” when you’re hoping for more tax cuts for the rich and powerful …

  2. HUMPHRIES

    HUMPHRIESGenius_badge said, 9 months ago

    blievecommonsense, “PORK” is kept in the same box that “Lib” and “Socialist” are. The right only has a vague idea what it means but whip it out anytime a smoke screen is needed.

  3. believecommonsense

    believecommonsenseGenius_badge said, 9 months ago

    yep, Humph, you be quite right

  4. RWLoon

    RWLoon said, 9 months ago

    believecommonsense, here’s a start.
    (from http://downloads.frc.org/EF/EF09A41.pdf)

    To the “Green” Lobby
    $600 Million To Buy New Cars For Government Workers (Page 89)
    These cars would be “green” friendly cars – however very few gas pumps have the right gas to run these cars.
    The Federal government already spends $3.5 billion a year.
    $10M for bike and walking trails (Page 65)
    $200M for plug-in car stations (Page 31)
    $400 million for NASA scientists to conduct climate change research (Page 22)
    $800 million to clean up Superfund sites (Page 122)
    $600 million for grants for diesel emission reduction (Page 119)
    $650 million for “alternative energy technologies, energy efficiency enhancements and deferred
    maintenance at Federal facilities” (Page 119)
    $1.5 billion for construction of “Green Schools” (Page 176)

    To the Unions
    $1 billion to the controversial COMMUNITY ORIENTED POLICING SERVICES COPS Hiring
    Program
    “$150 billion in new federal spending, a vast two-year investment that would more than double the
    Department of Education’s current budget. The proposed emergency expenditures on nearly every realm of
    education, including school renovation, special education, Head Start and grants to needy college students”
    Sam Dillon, “Stimulus Plan Would Provide Flood of Aid to Education,” New York Times. January 27, 2009.
    NOTE: Private and religious schools are excluded.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/28/education/28educ.html?_r=1

    To the Abortion Industry
    Representative Henry Waxman (D-Calif.) inserted in the original bill billions of dollars for family
    planning groups, including the abortion giant, Planned Parenthood. Pressure and public exposure from
    Congressional Republicans forced the Democrats to remove such funding from this bill. However the
    bill still provides billions in reforming the health care system and working towards nationalized health
    care – with little to no debate.
    $2.7B in NIH grants which would be targeted to among other things embryonic stem cell
    experimentation. (Page 56)

    Other Special Interests
    $3 Billion for Prevention & Wellness Programs, Including $335 million for STD Education and
    Prevention – Recent government expenditures in this area include a transgender beauty pageant in San
    Francisco that advertised available HIV testing and an event called “Got Love? – Flirt/Date/Score” that taught
    participants how “to flirt with greater finesse.”
    $83 billion for the earned income credit for people who don’t pay income tax.
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123310466514522309.html
    $246 million for Hollywood http://www.nationaljournal.com/congressdaily/cda200901279337.php
    $50 million for the National Endowment for the Arts (Page 122)
    $75 million for smoking cessation (Page 148). This contradicts the latest version of SCHIP that is funded
    largely by new taxes on cigarettes.
    $4.19 billion open to ACORN. The Pelosi-Reid bill makes groups like ACORN eligible for a $4.19 billion
    pot of money for “neighborhood stabilization activities.”

    MISCELLANEOUS PORK

    Some of the biggest winners in the package are federal agencies:
    $54 billion will go to federal programs that the Office of Management and Budget or the Government
    Accountability Office have already criticized as “ineffective” or unable to pass basic financial audits.
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123310466514522309.html
    $462 Million for Equipment, Construction, and Renovation of Facilities at the Centers for Disease
    Control (CDC) (Page 137)
    $150 Million for Repairs to Smithsonian Institution Facilities (Page 128)
    $44 million to the Agricultural Research Service (Page 135)
    $227 million for oversight of the pork barrel spending in the stimulus (Page 11)
    $1 Billion for The Follow-Up To The 2010 Census (Page 49)

  5. oldlegodad

    oldlegodadGenius_badge said, 9 months ago

    RWL, Good work. I see no “shovel ready” job makers in there at all..does any body?

  6. harleyquinn

    harleyquinnGenius_badge said, 9 months ago

    Pork the other guys cash
    Pork it’s what for dinner, served up by the dems.
    Pork you can not just serve one.

  7. HUMPHRIES

    HUMPHRIESGenius_badge said, 9 months ago

    RWLoon … Wow, nice pick n’ pay project.

  8. Corosive Frog

    Corosive Frog said, 9 months ago

    I like the toon, actually. It pokes fun both at the stumulus plan and the Republican’s psychotic fear of Obama being a muslim or a foreigner.

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/obama.asp

  9. harleyquinn

    harleyquinnGenius_badge said, 9 months ago

    Pork lets just put it on our kids bill and grandkids and there kids……

  10. claudermilk

    claudermilk said, 9 months ago

    FYI, that list was just picked from his link–another organization’s take on it. I’ve gotten to the point, I want to see the actual bill myself. Here’s a link to that: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.1:

    A really cursory browse does turn up stuff that IMHO does not belong in this bill considering the stated intent. So,there is some basis for the debate.

  11. HUMPHRIES

    HUMPHRIESGenius_badge said, 9 months ago

    claudermilk, it’s what frequently happens when the postings are checked out.

  12. deadheadzan

    deadheadzanGenius_badge said, 9 months ago

    This is irreverant and I think it is kind of funny because the Right was very paranoid about the Muslim issue. Colin Powell nailed it when he talked about religious freedom in this country.

  13. fennec

    fennec said, 9 months ago

    I can hardly wait until some of this so-called pork saves livelihoods and lives…as, for example, NIH research on stem cells or preventing illness (wellness programs which save money on medical bills in the long run) or maintaining federal facilities such as CDC and the Smithsonian. But just listen to the b*tching when bad peanuts get into the food system. Maybe a bit more investment in the FDA would have been useful?

  14. harleyquinn

    harleyquinnGenius_badge said, 9 months ago

    Pork lets put some ketchup call that our tax cut compromise and see if the public buys it.

  15. believecommonsense

    believecommonsenseGenius_badge said, 9 months ago

    RWLoon, i thank you for providing some info. Read the WSJ article and other reports online. I don’t find all that was mentioned to be “pork,” though some may be. I do agree some of it should not be in this package because it fails to fall into immediate stimulus category. And, inserting facts again, when funds for contraceptives were revealed in bill, it was Obama who asked it to be removed.
    i do not see that this bill is laden with “pork.” Case in point, funds for green govt cars will create manufacturing jobs, stimulate auto industry, reduce foreign oil consumption, pave way for private auto industry to make greener cars, thus creating jobs, etc. Our auto industry has the opportunity to take leadership in the world here if they’d quit fighting it!

    Not a perfect package, I agree. But I don’t see it laden with what I perceive as pure pork. I think Obama’s team wants Senate, including reps, to cut out unnecessary items. But part of verbal jousting is over the same old wanting to give big tax breaks to business and top rung of rich and influential using the same old tired argument that it trickles down, which has been proved incorrect over and over again.

  16. lalas

    lalas said, 9 months ago

    Ketchup on pork?!? How pedestrian.

  17. oldlegodad

    oldlegodadGenius_badge said, 9 months ago

    lalas,not even on hotdogs???

  18. LLeRay

    LLeRayGenius_badge said, 9 months ago

    Yuck!

    No ketchup on my hotdog, please!

  19. DHLEAKY

    DHLEAKYGenius_badge said, 9 months ago

    lalas and oldlegodad and LLeRayPro,

    You really believe after the last eight years of the lack of oversight, by the Bush FDA, that there is Pork in a hot dog? For that matter, is their Beef OR Pork left in a hot dog?
    ,
    This may be tongue in cheek…or not.

  20. HUMPHRIES

    HUMPHRIESGenius_badge said, 9 months ago

    DH … well, good for a giggle ;oD

  21. claudermilk

    claudermilk said, 9 months ago

    bcs: Living up to your name there. Some of the stuff does require a little thought as to why it’s there & considered stimulative–like your example. At first I thought WTF? about that one, then came to the same conclusion–gotta build the cars first. Then there’s the ongoing benefit later. Oh and don’t forget the guys who will be selling the old vehicles–more jobs for a while. There’s still stuff in there that does not belong, and hopefully will get pulled for the next versions.

  22. believecommonsense

    believecommonsenseGenius_badge said, 9 months ago

    claude … i agree with you … i hope extraneous stuff gets pulled when the two houses negotiate differences … as i think about it, it makes sense to me that O let the eager House of Reps pass what they wanted (and he did pull the contraceptive $), then he’s sending clear messages to the Senate to take out what shouldn’t be there … that’s smarter than fighting with the House…. but as long as the Senate Reps just keep screaming tax cuts we’re at a standstill …. i’m so disappointed (again) in McCain … he’s proving to be emotionally/politically unstable … i had faint hope he restore his sense of personal integrity … NOT