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  1. toasteroven

    toasteroven said, 16 days ago

    Ethics violations only occur when your side isn’t in power. When they are, well…

    What utterly baffles me, I mean really throws me for a loop, is how people can honestly believe that corruption has a bias. That either Republicans or Democrats are by some mysterious genetic code more corrupt than their opposite.

    There’s only one group of people prone to corruption, and that’s the whole human race.

  2. Buzzy-One

    Buzzy-One said, 16 days ago

    ^True enough.

  3. a.c.d

    a.c.d said, 16 days ago

    ^Ditto

  4. scottfreitas

    scottfreitasGenius_badge said, 16 days ago

    Toaster’s comment was pretty accurate. I’ll just add that Demoncrats are more prone to “ethics” lapses for two reasons:

    (1) They don’t give a fig about obeying Judeo-Christian precepts. Hence, they’re not bound by any real moral law. They’re the party that believes morality is invented by individuals, and that no such thing as absolute truth exists. As a result, they can always justify their own evil-doing, simply by adjusting their standards to fit their appetites.

    (2) Their voters are just like them, for the most part–Godless people who make up their morals as they go along, and don’t feel bound by the Bible. Thus they wilingly vote for openly corrupt people–especially sexually immoral people–because they do not believe in objective truth.

    Republican voters would never elect OR re-elect a Ted Kennedy, a Barney Frank, etc Because they hold their politicians to judeo-christian standards. That south carolina governor idiot who refused to resign after committing adultery in Argentina is going to be the latest to find that out. He will NOT win re-election. No way, no sir, no how. He is wasting everyone’s time by even running. GOP voters are going to stay home in droves because of him, and the Demoncrat opponent will win the race in a landslide (assuming the GOP campaign-staff pukes even support his cheating butt during the next primary).

  5. kjhudlow

    kjhudlowGenius_badge said, 16 days ago

    Hey, Scottfreitis. You think Republicans are moral? What is so Christian about torturing people? There is nothing more immoral than someone who claims to be a Christian while doing evil.

  6. 4uk4ata

    4uk4ata said, 16 days ago

    “Republican voters would never elect OR re-elect a Ted Kennedy, a Barney Frank, etc Because they hold their politicians to judeo-christian standards.”

    Nope, scott, GOPers have simply learned to be more… denying, as it were, in their affairs. As in, denying they happened, then denying it was as important. Then, if someone has the temerity to ask, they will say they would have learned from their mistakes. Good Lord, man, how can you kep typing this stuff up without having a seizure? You sure are on a roll today.

    So who elected aforementioned SC governor in the first place? Who elected Larry Craig, Mark Foley, Bob Allen? Or who kept Giuliani and Gingrich afloat long after their affairs in the 90’s (technically 00s for New York’s finest) were public knowledge?

    Many members of the GOP (not all, I grant you) are simply more thick-skinned and better deceivers. That is why they still claim to have the moral high ground. And if you think right-wingers can’t turn a blind eye to a party favourite, well, you are just wrong.

  7. DrCanuck

    DrCanuck said, 15 days ago

    scottfreitas repeats one of the great lies of American culture:

    “If you are not Judeo-Christian, you follow no real moral law.”

    scott, all religions based on belief and all philosphies based on reason design moral laws. Almost all are almost identical to the Judeo-Christian codes. Humanism included, without the supernatural element.

  8. lalas

    lalas said, 15 days ago

    Yea Scott – which Judeo-X-tian precepts was Sanford following on his way to Argentina? How about Wide-Stance? How about Newt go-ahead-and-die-while-I_bang-another-woman Gingrich?

    The thing I hate about X-tians is the holier than thou BS that you can’t help but spew ad nauseum.

    Personally I have found that people who base their entire lives around the parables of 2500 year old dirt farmers to be much more obnoxious than those of us who do what is right for its own sake. I refer you to Kant’s “Metaphysics of Morals”. (Watch out though it has some big words in it.)

  9. charlie555

    charlie555 said, 15 days ago

    If I were not a Christian, I could find a hundred justifications for cheating on my taxes and my insurance claims as do most people I know. I can’t.

    Christianity makes me a better citizen and I am punished for it by paying higher taxes and insurances because of the people who cheat.

    And ridiculed for being a Christian on top of it. (Which I know, from a Christian perspective, is a blessing.)

  10. P.J. Liggett

    P.J. Liggett said, 15 days ago

    Scott: I was almost able to resist “spitting into the wind” but you are too irritating for words. I am a life long Democrat that is fiscally conservative and socially liberal. I believe that we need to take care of each other as the bible tells us. But I also believe that we need to pay our way as we go. WWll started the deficit spiral that we are in. Now it is kept alive by the Greedy Old People whose god is money.

    Don’t start on one of your godless rants with me either because I am a practicing christian. The church that I belong to is called The Disciples of Christ.. I also believe that you are a lying hypocrite.

  11. wbr

    wbr said, 15 days ago

    4uky foley ran out of office for send emails – craig gone for sex solicitation vs kennedy out only because of death even thought muderer– frank in he only got loan payoff and ran a call boy ring

  12. DrCanuck

    DrCanuck said, 15 days ago

    charlie555 said, “If I were not a Christian, I could find a hundred justifications for cheating on my taxes and my insurance claims as do most people I know.”

    I am not a Christian, yet I find NO justifications for cheating on my taxes. I am a Bright. Apparently, I follow a stricter moral code than you.

  13. churchillwasright

    churchillwasright said, 15 days ago

    Back on Topic:

    Didn’t Pelosi tell us “this will be the most ethical Congress evah.”?

  14. deadheadzan

    deadheadzanGenius_badge said, 15 days ago

    Dr. Canuck, my brother is a Bright. He lives in Madison, Wisconsin. Good luck to all the Brights out there.

  15. Libertarian1

    Libertarian1 said, 15 days ago

    Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely. Whichever party is in control will inevitably succumb to temptation and become corrupt. There are many types of corruption: power, ego trips, bribe taking, sexual conquests etc. Unfortunately all political parties, all religions, all philosophies are equally vulnerable and susceptible.

    If that is a concern then elect the President from one party and the Congress from the other. Checks and balances. For a Libertarian that is ideal.

  16. lalas

    lalas said, 15 days ago

    I’m not a Christian and I don’t cheat on my taxes/spouse either. I believe ultimately we’re all in it together. There are those who can not or will not carry their share of the weight. Some of those who will not are rich and some are poor.

    Like DrC I require no threat/promise of God’s wrathlove to make me do what’s right.

  17. dtroutma

    dtroutma said, 15 days ago

    Judeo-Christian values were well established by old testament homicidal kings, the Inquisition torture chambers, and the Puritans dunking chairs and stake burnings. Apologists are kidding themselves.

    Even Buddhism has it’s “problem areas”, but most of the love and peace teachings of Jesus, and Mohammed, actually derive from that source, or before- so get a life, instead of some irrational justification for hatred and bigotry in the name of any “faith”.

    Yes, Americans are perhaps the most ethically challenged in the world, from all sides, and it is all based on the firm foundation of our hypocrisy.

  18. charlie555

    charlie555 said, 15 days ago

    DrC

    Interesting… Do Brights have a written moral code that states cheating on taxes is wrong?

    lalas

    Christians don’t (or shouldn’t) obey God because of threat or reward. They do it because it is owed God in justice for all He has done for us.

    The point I was trying to make is that those who follow a moral code are at a disadvantage in this country under the present triumph of moral relativism.

  19. Corosive Frog

    Corosive Frog said, 15 days ago

    lalas is right.

    According to some’s logic, I could cheat on my bf. I was quite a hedonist before I met him and there are still temptations, yet I don’t.

    Why? I don’t need any boogieman, I just need to put myself in his shoes. He’s the sweetest guy I know and doesnt’ diserve to be treated like that. I wouldn’t like it if he cheated on me, I don’t cheat on him. The ability to put yourself into someone else’s shoes, in psychology we call it empathy and it’s part of being a normal, sane human being, no matter what your faith is.

  20. churchillwasright

    churchillwasright said, 15 days ago

    Again, no surprise that TROUT, possibly the most “blame America first” poster on here, opines ”Yes, Americans are perhaps the most ethically challenged in the world…”

    What a stupid statement. Americans are no more or less “ethically challenged” than any other group in the world. What a dope.

  21. NoFearPup

    NoFearPupGenius_badge said, 15 days ago

    Make the penalty for corruption mandatory replacement with an opposite party member.

  22. DrCanuck

    DrCanuck said, 14 days ago

    charlie555 said: DrC; Interesting… Do Brights have a written moral code that states cheating on taxes is wrong?

    Written, no. But none-the-less binding.

    A personal commitment to do what is right. Based on reason on what makes people and society better, not on the desire for reward or fear of punishment.

    If I am at a “disadvantage,” so be it.

  23. lalas

    lalas said, 14 days ago

    “Christians don’t (or shouldn’t) obey God because of threat or reward. They do it because it is owed God in justice for all He has done for us.”

    If you thank God for all he has done you will be rewarded. If you don’t you will be punished. Does the motivation matter or just the fact that you are or aren’t thanking Him for his gifts?

  24. DrCanuck

    DrCanuck said, 14 days ago

    lalas, my friend; you have contradicted yourself.

    Your first paragraph says you DON’T do things for reward.

    The second says you WILL be rewarded for what you do (and punished if you don’t).

    Which is it?

  25. lalas

    lalas said, 13 days ago

    The first P is a quote from Charlie above… hence the quotation marks.

  26. DrCanuck

    DrCanuck said, 13 days ago

    Ooops. Sorry.

  27. comYics

    comYics said, 12 days ago

    lalas, here is some reference to your inquiry on that Views America cartoon on October 27 2009.

    Please read
    http://www.gocomics.com/viewsamerica/2009/10/27/

  28. comYics

    comYics said, 11 days ago

    charlie555, dont worry about DrCanuck, DrCanuck is only posting to troll.