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scottfreitas said, 2 months ago

Historians until very recently routinely referred to Islam as being “The Religion of the Sword” for good reason.

Pretty sick how the Left today constantly demonizes Christianity, dredging up isolated incidents from centuries ago to paint Christianity as being a bloody, violent, forceful religion–all while denying every positive contribution Christianty ever made to western society.

Simualtaneously, they bend over backwards to defend Islam as being a “religion of peace”, ignoring Islam’s unbroken 1500-year-long track record of ceaseless warfare which extends right into the present day.

More proof that one of my least favorite conservatives, Michael Savage (a rare secular-minded conservative), is bang-on accurate when he describes modern-day Liberalisn as being a mental disorder…

Case in point: Liberals both defend and celebrate babies being killed inside their mother’s wombs, but get all teary-eyed about mass murderers being put to death by the government.

Really, the political left simply turns morality on its head, habitually defending evil while condemning good…
moosegirl said, 2 months ago

scottfreitas: Bravo! Well said and to the point. But don’t forget how the Left tries to rewrite history.
Kingoswald said, 2 months ago

Such long posts every day. And on a comics site, already. Heaven only knows how long your posts on Free Republic are!

Don’t any of you teabaggers have jobs? Must be costing Dick Armey and his corporate buddies a fortune keeping you all in funds …
Jim said, 2 months ago

Notice how Obama is seated , somewhat , away from the table , in the first panel .
churchillwasright said, 2 months ago

DSPED (if you are still lurking): See my reply to you yesterday. You might learn something.
harleyquinn said, 2 months ago

Nice that Obama can just sit there and declare the war over. So nice of him that the world loves us and we only have to worry about man made bad things.
Nice dream world.
DrCanuck said, 2 months ago

So Assay is saying Islam is a war with butlers? When did butlers attack Islam? Are butlers infidels; can’t Muslims be butlers? Lost me on this one!
parkersinthehouse said, 2 months ago

jim - it’s just a compositional device to allow the drawing to develop stage left

it’s curious that anyone purports to know anything about islam, or christianity or judaism for that matter, without doing any research - that’s how lies are churned into unsuspecting, uneducated minds

as always, it will be the radical factions of any religion or political population who perpetrate the lies in order to win followers - they slam, they kill, they lie, they fail
David said, 2 months ago

They don’t have the guts to face this problem head-on like it needs to be.

They are more than eager to give in to these murderers and cut-throats in the name of political expediency.

Men as weak as these only encourage them to attack.
charlie555 said, 2 months ago

^ Islam is at a disadvantage in this regard because, by today’s standards of civilization, their founder was unacceptably radical. This means Muslims cannot satisfy their devotion to him by perfect imitation of his life. This frustration makes some of them want to change the world to justify their founder’s life.

Christianity does not have this problem. Radical imitation of Christ, or even Peter and Paul is perfectly acceptable civilized behavior.
Corosive Frog said, 2 months ago

To read the Quran would be a good start in knowing what we are all talking about.

http://www.sacred-texts.com/isl/htq/index.htm
4uk4ata said, 2 months ago

Does this cartoon refer to any current event, or is Asay indulging in his old “Liberals are spineless wimps who won’t fight the Islamic threat as I understand it” passion?
dsped said, 2 months ago

Churchill - read and responded to. Perhaps you may someday learn the art of expressing disagreement without the stench of condescension.
dsped said, 2 months ago

4uk4ata, Asay is referring to the administration’s decision earlier this year to move away from the “war on terror” terminology. Apparently it’s an act of cowardice to strive for semantic accuracy.
dsped said, 2 months ago

Scott, I’d like to issue you a challenge I’ve issued in other forums.

There are certainly leftists who demonize Christianity. There are certainly leftists who defend Islam as a religion of peace.

My challenge is simple: demonstrate that both groups are the SAME PEOPLE, instead of merely ascribing it to a monolithic “Left”.
believecommonsense said, 2 months ago

this was good, dsped: Apparently it’s an act of cowardice to strive for semantic accuracy.
dtroutma said, 2 months ago

The Inquisition was an “isolated incident” that LASTED for several centuries, and led to the murder of a number of civilizations in the Americas under the boots of Conquistadors working for the spread of “the church”.

Organized Religions have repeatedly caused our most horrible and destructive wars, of many “faiths”, all based on “the Bible”. Over 38,000 “Christian” denominations don’t agree with each other, and will fight to the death, literally, to defend THEIR interpretation of that book. Jews and Muslims also both use that same book in different applications of different chapters, mostly as an excuse to kill people.

Most religions do have their “peaceniks”, but the warrior mentality, or maybe just the homicidal “homies”, always seem in control.

The thousands of years of murdering for the “faiths” is a disappointment that must have any “supreme being” waiting for us to destroy ourselves and rid the universes of our self-absorbed petulance.
scottfreitas said, 2 months ago

wtfall: you’re a certified tyrant. Love your line about how women should be forced to have abortions, followed by claiming people MUST be provided with a decent job and decent education.

Neither education nor jobs could be “provided” without first forcibly taking both huge amounts of time and effort from others–many of them unwilling participants. As is standard practice in both Socialist and Communist nations.

So basically, you’re symbolic of a typical American leftist: you simply hate everything that is uniquely American, and want it erased–replaced by the same tyrannical, totalitarian government-is-god-and people-are-slaves-to-it mentality which not only dominates the world today, but which prior to the advent of Christianity, has ALWAYS dominated the world.

No wonder you demonize Christianity; it is the only obstacle left standing between the literal Hell on earth you envision for humanity… :/
harleyquinn said, 2 months ago

Oh please please let him be playing the fool when it comes to Islamic Muslims Murderers. He is playing it so well with all of the apologizes and renamings and such. So well that I am now doubting he could be so stupid as to go back to a pre 9/11 mentality. There has to be a strategy somewhere in there?
M Kitt said, 2 months ago

Well stated, DTR.

So the “Religionists” who support the fundamentalist agenda that scripture prevails over the law and that we’re all just wasting time waiting for the rapture, haven’t they openly stated that our war in Iraq/Afghanistan is just the opening volley? That anyone not of their religion (IE Muslims) are somehow followers of Satan who don’t deserve their own country and who by their beliefs deserve to be occupied? It’s that sort of “rational” thinking and complete intolerance of anyone else’s point of view that brings many of us to completely distrust the religious “right” that really isn’t….

Scott maintains the completely sanctimonious worldview that any system of belief outside of his comfort zone (IE religion) is meaningless since he declares it to be so.

This addresses the common religious notion that those of us who don’t follow the self-appointed Voices of GOD are worthless and should be ignored at best, disregarded and/or abused (rendition anyone?) more likely by historic example.

Religion as basis for war is more than common, it’s THE prevailing formula. Declare that God (Your Particular Chosen God, of course) is on your’ side and that your’ enemy is without a soul and deserves to die.

But for those of us “Godless” who are tolerant of others, we’re the haters, right Scott? Our disapproval of your’ tactics allows you to declare that, at least among the “faithful” religious zealots.

Moral values aren’t some religiously generated, exlusive property of your’ (or any other) church, much as you’d like to think that, especially among those of us quoting Savage, Limbaugh, Beck, O’Really, ad nauseum.
deadheadzan said, 2 months ago

These extreme fundamentalist, waiting for the rapture, are crazy, pure and simple. And they are the village idiots who are insisting on making the rules for the village. We have to get a grip and allow intelligence to function in our society. When you balance the good versus evil that organized religion has perpetrated over the ages, I almost want to be an atheist. However, I will refrain from throwing the baby out with the bath water.
Corosive Frog said, 2 months ago

I left roman catholicism for buddhism, ‘nuff said.

Sooky Rottweiler says;
And me, I still believe in the Big Mommy Wolf in the sky. Cats don’t believe in it and some dogs can’t stand them for it, but it’s cool with me.
scottfreitas said, 2 months ago

M Kitt: the oddities within the secular mind never cease to by turns amaze me, and amuse me. Also digust me, since it churns out its own made-up garbage which typically bears very little resemblance to the truth.

A few pointers:

(1) Unlike you, Christians don’t view Man as being God. Hence, we understand we live in a created universe with morality hard-coded into it. It has nothing to do with US; we cannot change it, alter it, or destroy it. At worst, we can either ignore it or deny it–the two approaches favored by folks like you, who also manage to produce all the world’s Maos and Stalins and Hitlers, as your godless Alpha Males attempt to prove that morality is whatever THEY say it is, rather than what Scripture declares. Yet the Maos etc keep dying, their “morality” disappears with them, and the universe keeps chugging along with the same old coding hardwired into it, beyond Man’s reach to change.

(2) Christians are not Muslims. We don’t think in terms of infidels. We hold the same view about ourselves as we do everyone else–that we are all fallen creatures who use our God-given free will to make incorrect (sinful, evil) choices which alienate us from our Creator. Said Creator, being omniscient, knew we would do this before he created us. He thus devised a plan which both preserved our free will–necessary for beings created in His image–yet enabled us to be reconciled to him, IF we so choose.That plan being faith that Jesus Christ died for our sins etc, you probably know all the basics and just don’t care. Most people don’t. They won’t let God be God, and instead demand that God let THEM be God. “Do it MY way or I’ll just claim you don’t exist” is teh free-will choice most people make. to their eternal loss. As they will discover in probably less than .000001 nanoseconds after their heart stops beating and their brainwaves go flat.

In short, you just made stuff about me, and Christians, like most people. But I tell you the truth, you will only be allowed to play God for so long during your life, before the pretense will finally be over…
NoFearPup said, 2 months ago

I’m putting this back because someone actually responded to it…
[So this all started with a question about Allah? Allah is not the Lord of the Universe. At best, he’s a fantasy or an extrapolation of a demonic Arabic Moon God; or, at worst, Satan himself. The Christian God is logically irreconciable with the Muslim Diety. Any more questions?]
The Butler is dead. But it does behoove us(The U.S. and the West) to be as amenable to all peoples of the globe wherever it is possible. We should take the opportunity for dialogue that the left position affords us ; meanwhile attempting to maintain reasonable security against terrorists.
DonVanni said, 2 months ago

My theory about Allah (and I think the late George Carlin might have liked this idea) is that Allah is really The Holy Ghost. I mean, you have God the Father for the Jews, Jesus the Son for the Christians, and Allah the Holy Ghost for the Muslims.

I figure the Holy Ghost was in Heaven one day, getting tired of being Low Deity on the totem pole (so to speak), and decided to get some followers of his (its?) own. So he sent an angel down to Earth to make this likely looking guy Mohammed cough up the Quran. And the rest is history.
toasteroven said, 2 months ago

Hey.

Hey scott.

You still don’t know what history is!

How come?
oldlegodad said, 2 months ago

Muhammad was a animist goat herder who tried to join a synagogue in Arabia. He was rejected as being defiled. and uncircumcised. “I’ll show you B@$tard$” and he started spouting gibberish about what little he had picked from Judaism and LO a new religion was born and spread over the sands of the middle east and north africa to the gates of .Europe. What if?
4uk4ata said, 2 months ago

@ POP: I would disagree. If Christianity and Islam both say there is one God (and afaik Allah is just a word for “God”, used even by the arabic-speaking Maronites), then they are speaking about the same God. Yes, they have different prophets (somewhat) and creed, since they are, after all, different religions. Regardless of what the truth may be, Muslims think they worship the god of Abraham, David and Solomon. Let’s leave the theology aside for the moment. It is not that important, hasn’t been what wars were fought for in centuries.

The “butler” in the picture is one side of the coin. These are, if I am reading the toon right, the victims of Islamic terrorism. There is another, too - the dead of the Muslim countries, which people in the West seldom mourn. For all the bloodlust of the Iraqi insurgents or the Taliban, there were many innocent people killed by the NATO and coalition troops - probably twice or even more than those killed by Islamic terrorism in the “West”. Add in the “civilian casualities” of the Israeli attacks (or reprisals, if you want) - for which the US, as well as most other countries, has yet to say a harsh word - and they become still more. Do you honestly think that their people have forgotten? That they are any more forgiving than all those pundits, politicians, cartoonists who warn us about 9/11, about the London subway bombing, about Nord-Ost, the Madrid bombings, Beslan and the rest? Of course not.

I am all for being amenable to all people while maintaining reasonable security. I am fully with you in that, at least in theory. However, deeds done in the pursuit of such security can also have their own repercussions, and “our side” may be responsible for innocent deaths as well.
Loco80 said, 2 months ago

Malicious Kitty - you openly declare your ignorance, hatred, and predudice, and I can only reply by praying for you. I will pray that the Holy Spirit will come to you, and enlighten you.
Toaster turtle, I fear that you are a lost cause and will only find redemption as soup, but I will pray for you as well.
M Kitt said, 2 months ago

Loco, your’ comments make as much sense as ever, little or no reason, perspective, or logic.

Perhaps I decided that after being “enlighted” by the holy spirit :-)
M Kitt said, 2 months ago

Doesn’t surprise me that Scott would follow what he considers to be a proven GOP formula of comparing liberals to mass murdering communists, painting with that kind of broad brush would allow me to call him a Nazi, he’s not nearly clever enough to pull that off tho, he’s really just a willfully ignorant fundamentalist with no sense of history or related context.

Christianity is historically and remains today the largest purveyor of war on the planet, but I’ll let you try to make one simple comparison to see whether you follow numerical logic, Scott.

Scott would like to believe that all Muslims do what their fundamentalists do, just as the right wing would like for us to accept their version of 911 that it doesn’t matter which Muslim did it, they’re all guilty.

I’ve pointed out that many of your’ own fundamentalist neocons propose that Muslims worship satan in order to rationalize our invasion of Islamic countries (Iraq at the very least, we’ll see if others follow), what about you, is that OK? Do you consider Iraq/Afghanistan to be an end-time holy war Scott?

Do you even have any idea what the number of civilian non-combatants killed in Iraq is to date? Difficult to establish since the numbers aren’t openly released in the U.S. but the British Surgeon/Registry of Professional Doctors states in the Lancet, a non-partisan medical journal, that one million total Iraqi casualties since the U.S. invasion is a low reasonable estimate.

A little accounting says that our 3-4K dead on 911 is a drop in the bucket by comparison, is that OK with you, Scott? If so, why? Does your Faith allow you to overlook anything, regardless how obviously unfair, imposed by your party Faithful on others? What is the connection, by the way, between responsibility for 911 and these dead civilian Iraqis?

Get a grip, Scott. Christianity doesn’t assure you a place alongside God any more than other people of faith, much as you’d like to believe that.

By the way, which pretense will be over? The one where fundamentalists like you propose that the rapture awaits you if you declare Obama to be the Antichrist?

What other huge prevailing idiocy will be imposed on the rest of us by militant, ignorant religious zealots?
NoFearPup said, 2 months ago

This is my theory and I’m sticking with it: The Christian God is logically irreconciable with the Muslim Diety. Ergo, the Christian God and Allah are not the same entities.

vThank you, senor; your link makes my point exactly: “The question is really this: Which book is the revelation of God? Both volumes claim inspiration, but obviously both cannot be inspired.”
senorbullwinkle said, 2 months ago

^ You dont know your Bible.
You should make a study of this guy.
Much much more out there, on this.

http://www.christiancourier.com/articles/1161-ishmael-or-isaac-the-koran-or-the-bible

http://www.aboutbibleprophecy.com/p141.htm

http://www.islamicity.com/Mosque/Muhammad_Bible.HTM

If you believe in GOD you had better careful what you say about Muslims.
read the last paragraph on the last link. ” out of context.”
senorbullwinkle said, 2 months ago

^^ And puddles changes his name again.
toasteroven said, 2 months ago

“Toaster turtle, I fear that you are a lost cause and will only find redemption as soup, but I will pray for you as well.”

Ha ha ha!

What an absolute treasure you are.
senorbullwinkle said, 2 months ago

obviously LOCO has never heard of NINJA turtles !

http://tinyurl.com/l246eg
senorbullwinkle said, 2 months ago

My point is both trace their heritage to Abraham. Ishmael is his first son. Both believe in the same GOD (Jew and Muslim). Only Christens have less of a claim. The Koran is the most legitimate Book. If you only knew how the Koran is copied, you would see why. The New testament is the least reliable. For example look at this.

http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2008/aprilweb-only/117-31.0.html

And if you realy want to know the truth
http://www.dreamscape.com/morgana/godquiz.htm
NoFearPup said, 2 months ago

Winky: “The New testament is the least reliable. ”
Absolutely wrong , sir . The New Testament is by far the most reliable and well-attested item of ancient writing; no other collection of documents has as many copies or as good textual evidence. Read Neil Lightfoot’s book How We Got the Bible.
scottfreitas said, 2 months ago

Not to mention the fact Mohammed came along centuries AFTER both the Old and New Testaments existed, and fabricated a bunch of gibberish which fully contradiced both the aforementioned while claiming “Islam is a continuation of these Bibles but is the final, authoritative word” etc etc

Mohammed was illiterate, please remember. The dude did not even know how to READ or WRITE.

Putting faith in the Big Mo over both Jesus and Moses is pretty damned stupid, literally…
dtroutma said, 2 months ago
scott
1. “Infidel” is defined first in dictionaries as “non-Christian”
2. Most “Christians” are now saying Jesus, a man, was God.
3. Mohammed, was a merchant, and literate.
There is no true evidence that a dude named “Moses” actually wrote the first five books of the Old Testament (or even existed outside Jewish mythology). Jesus never wrote anything down, and in ALL THREE cases, it was their FOLLOWERS who re-wrote books, and made up the real rules, mythologies, ceremonies, and interpretations. These MEN determined what they wanted folks, read subjects, to believe. From the ancient rabbis to mullahs and televangelists, taking “words” out of context has strengthened beliefs more than original thoughts and teachings.
deadheadzan said, 2 months ago

Like I said earlier, atheism is looking good but because of my life experiences I have to stick with pantheism.
Corosive Frog said, 2 months ago

It is hard to recognize the modern christian view of God in Allah (but it is sure easy to recognise integrism in some followers of both religions, both use it as a pretext to look down their noses at everyone else).

What I can recognise in Allah, though, is the christian God as seen in the fifth, sixth and seventh centuries. If you know the first milleium of the Church, you will see there were divisions among philosophers and their sects; manicheans, donatists, monophysites, aryanism…

The doctrine of the Trinity and what to think of Mary was very complex. Is there only one God or is there three of them? Also, artworks depicting saints were often worshipped as having powers. They were like idols to many.

Islam gave a clear answer to many of these questions; There is only one god, his prophet, Muhammad, is a human, born of humans and it is forbidden to make any effigy of him as some people may mistake thosee material images for the real thing.
charlie555 said, 2 months ago

God is not defined by Man. God is WHO HE IS.

Most Christians believe He revealed Himself as one God in three Persons, the Second Person becoming Man in Jesus Christ.

Mohammed states that an angel appeared to him and told him Allah is not one God in three Persons, and Jesus is only a man and not the Second Person of the Trinity.

Ergo, the God of the Christians and Allah are different beings.
DrCanuck said, 2 months ago

There are two Gods? Cool. Any more you know of?
charlie555 said, 2 months ago

^No. One God and one impostor. Thinking Christians believe Allah to be the impostor and thinking Muslims believe the God revealed by Jesus to be the impostor.
DrCanuck said, 2 months ago

So Allah is an impostor, but He’s still a God, right?

And how do you know which is the real one and which is the impostor, when you only have one book to go by that everyone else disagrees with?
NoFearPup said, 2 months ago

You put the two books together side by side, and decide which one makes the most sense. Just like evolutionists put theories like punctuated equilibrium, the hopeful monster, and extra-solar seeding side-by-side and decide which one explains best why there is insufficient fossil evidence and insufficient time for “Darwinian” evolution to have ocurred.
omQ R said, 2 months ago

Whoa. My head spun 360º with the above.
^ You compare choosing a religion to determining whether a particular scientific theory is bunk…to fit a …what?

So choosing a faith is akin to “choosing” a scientific theory fitting a particular stance(belief?). Huh?

Who’s been nibbling at your head?
churchillwasright said, 2 months ago

One thing is certain. At this very moment, right now, there are hundreds of thousands, if not more, of Radical Fundamentalist Muslims the world over who would like to see ALL OF YOU DEAD! They are not sitting around drinking tea, discussing the history of religion, the dictionary definition of “infidel”, whether there are one or more “gods”, or of the validity of the theory of evolution. If one of them were sitting next to you right now, before you even had a chance to breach the subject, your head would be rolling on the floor like the guy in the cartoon.

This is not just an opinion. You don’t have to believe me. It is what they say. It is on video and audio tape. It is on the internet.

This is not an indictment of the 95% of Muslims who do not feel this way. They are not to be feared. But 5% of a billion people is a lot to be worried about.

BTW, as hard as I try, I can’t remember anyone ever threatening me because I don’t believe in Christ.

You are now free to continue your philosophical discussion on whether God exists.
omQ R said, 2 months ago

Churchillwasright issues dire warning ”…who would like to see ALL OF YOU DEAD!”

I just sh4t my pants.

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