Chuck Asay by Chuck Asay
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Chuck Asay sifts the events of the day through his biblical worldview and tries to persuade readers to see things his way...that rights are given by a higher authority than the governments of men, that mankind is not the ultimate arbiter of truth and that our Constitutional Republic is worth protecting. Chuck believes ideas, not politicians rule the world. He tries to protect ideas which he thinks are good and attacks ideas he thinks bring harm.
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GNWachs
said,
4 months ago
And that doesn’t even count the ObamaCare health plan. That will be another trillion. Our great grandchildren will pay for our folly and you can’t blame the 2nd trillion on Bush.
michael
said,
4 months ago
Funny how deficits don’t matter until a member of the opposite party is in the White House!
oldlegodad
said,
4 months ago
Ain’t it the truth,: 3 posts, 3 hits.
HOWGOZIT said, 4 months ago
Biden: “have to spend money to make money!”
avarner said, 4 months ago
“We’ll cross that bridge when we come to it.”
Isn’t that what Ted said???
harleyquinn
said,
4 months ago
Rolling rolling rollen, Keep them taxes rollen, Higher, crack. Head them up, Keep them up, Higher! Higher.
(only on the top 5% or who ever we deem “rich”) have to keep that class warfare going.
That is going to be one big and long government gravy train there. To bad it is tax payer money supporting it.
ezdeb said, 4 months ago
HQ, how is Obama practicing class warfare? Just askin’, cuz you just are sooo clever with your whip cracking and stuff, I’m sure you’re clever enough to know some facts. What’s with Asay’s sudden use of western themes? Is that where the right wing is now, in a Ronald Reagan b-movie and/or a John Wayne fantasy of ruggedness?
DrCanuck said, 4 months ago
GNWachs said: “And that doesn’t even count the ObamaCare health plan. That will be another trillion. Our great grandchildren will pay for our folly and you can’t blame the 2nd trillion on Bush.”
DrCanuck responds: And the Bush debt of 10.6 trillion that Obama inherited? Or doesn’t that count?
hank197857
said,
4 months ago
good artwork …
lalas said, 4 months ago
DocCanada – W only deserves blame for 5.5ish of that 10.6.
HOWGOZIT said, 4 months ago
Dr C–inherited my a$$. King Baroke has driven the debt period and nothing has resulted to a marked degree.
GNWachs
said,
4 months ago
9/30/08 Clinton President National Debt= $5.7T
For relativity perspective 1942 in today’s dollars
National Debt= $10T
To add to the equation during Clinton all social security dollars collected and expended were for the first time incorporated into the national debt picture. Since then it was in the black Social security actually showed a profit and lowered the national debt. That has now turned around and adds to the debt.
ezdeb said, 4 months ago
If debt is what matters, GNW, I assume you balked at the Bush budget which never included either of the two wars he was waging. Those separate, emergency fundings for the WOT were done that way specifically so that the war billions would not be subject to budget oversight. You seem very concerned about our national debt. Do you have any thoughts on that difference? At least our current adminstration is including, you know, relevant costs into the budget, for you to sneer at.
ezdeb said, 4 months ago
1942? WTF? Why not 1927? I crack up when random data like this is applied as if it is information. If you laid dollar bills end to end each day since Jesus was born, if you set dollar bills on top of each other till they reached outer space, if you translated those trillions into Japanese yen, if you multiply times your birthdate and add 4. Whatever. Yeah, it’s a lot. Back in the 1830’s, $15/month was a good monthly wage. There’s no point in your numbers.
GNWachs
said,
4 months ago
ezdeb: I am a libertarian not a Republican. I opposed his expenditures just as I oppose Obama’s. That is why I wouldn’t vote for McCain.
You repeat a logical fallacy that escapes me. If Bush expended dollars for the WOT that were not in the budget they still were captured for posterity in the debt figure. That is why that number is important. It bypasses the yearly budget and focuses on the bottom line. It captures all the expenses in one number.
Your second post also shows lack of perspective. The previous peak was 1942, not an arbitrarily chosen year. It shows American history.
dtroutma said, 4 months ago
Ten trillion is ten trillion. Most all of that racked up by Reagan, Bush 41 and 43. Obama’s budget is only marginally above, and much of that is “repayable”. The health care cost is spread over 10 years, that same amount in Iraq was over around 14 months. Deficit spending is not good, but “economists” insist totally eliminating debt is “bad”. That doesn’t seem to be true for MY checkbook, but actually does improve “credit score”- so go figure.
harleyquinn
said,
4 months ago
how is Obama practicing class warfare? Just askin’
Day 1 before elected “I will only raise taxes on the top 5%. And he has been making that number higher and higher ever since.
striper77 said, 4 months ago
Obama racked up over 9 trillion of that debt. 7 trillion alone was the stimulus package that went to pork barrel spending and liberal causes. Very little went to anything that may help the economy.
DrCanuck said, 4 months ago
Striper of the alternate reality is back!
dtroutma said, 4 months ago
Striper has a problem with the system decimal, and where the point is.
ezdeb said, 4 months ago
1942 was the peak of what, GNW? HQ, how does wealth translate into class? Do you say that the wealthiest 5% of American citizens are somehow in a different class than you and I? I’m recently unemployed from a retail job, my husband is ill with serious symptoms that will cost tens of thousands of dollars just for the tests to diagnose his condition! We have no insurance; he is too sick to work; we live in a rural area far from urban hospitals.I haven’t gas money even to get to the doctor. What “class” do I fit in for you? Am I greedy because I hope that soon a spoiled Republican congressperson will deign to allow me to live my life without struggling like a North Korean just to physically survive with my family intact?? What “class” does your obstructive Republican congress-critter belong to? Why do you cast your lot with those who already have and are intent on making sure others won’t have?? How dare you??? I’ll bet you dollars to debt that the instant even a few Republican senators lose their health benefits, they’d suddenly see the fear in a recurrent cough, or the fear that THEIR 23 yr old daughter’s cancer will come back now…Deep breath, deep breath.
GNWachs
said,
4 months ago
ezdeb: 1942 was the previous highest national debt. Run up by FDR. Not an arbitrary year.
A few figures for your information. Pretend there are 100 taxpayers in the US. 46 of them (you) pay $0 (zero) federal income tax. The lower 50% pay 3.4% of all Federal income tax. So they are in the lower class of tax payers. The top 50% of workers pay 96.6% of all Federal income Tax. The top 5 wage-earners pay 55% of all Federal Income Tax.
That is what is meant by “class” Yes, they are in a different class because they pay the taxes that enable you to live in this country.
DrCanuck said, 4 months ago
This man has no heart. Human tragedy is answered with statistics.
GNWachs
said,
4 months ago
And of course the well off have no human tragedy. I am watching a dear friend die of ovarian cancer at age 53. I am not supposed to feel sympathy for her because she has money? I take time off to go to the doctor with her and am able to ask him the right questions.
I am watching my own child unable to pay their mortgage because he is out of work but I can’t pay it off because I pay 40% of my income for taxes. Yes, I would rather help my daughter than ezdeb.
harleyquinn
said,
4 months ago
“Do you say that the wealthiest 5% of American citizens are somehow in a different class than you and I?”
Only in the eyes of those who want to take it from them. And Obama and his like are all to happy exploit those who feel they should get something for nothing just because someone has more then the next guy.
cabrobst said, 4 months ago
How many trillions a day does the Iraq war cost?
Yes, we can blame it on an idiot who threw away a surplus on an unnecessary war while not doing the things that the American people need done.
ezdeb said, 4 months ago
I agree with cabrobst; Republicans never want to think of the military as sucking on the taxpayer teat, though. HQ replies to me that President Obama exploits those who “feel they should get something for nothing”. It makes me weary. I somehow am less of an American to HQ because I don’t think basic health is a discipline issue. GNW, your figures are basically correct. Except that you do not take into consideration payroll taxes. This is a big exclusion that impacts the working poor much more than any other group. And GNW, it’s laughable to me that you would actually say to your child that you would help them with their mortgage except that the relative percentage of your tax burden is too high! Sob! And, jerk, I didn’t ask you or HQ for any bleeep thing. OK, here’s a scenario: My friend Austin is from Austin, TX. He’s my daughter’s fiancee’s friend. My daughter’s fiancee was killed January 2009 by a sniper in Iraq while showing an American navy officer around town. Austin is a pretty good guy, but he’s heavy into gang tattoos, and is falling into the wrong circle of “support” in his group. (Austin is a Navy plane mechanic). Austin’s mom is a, well, a welfare queen. Seriously, she chortles each time she gets some monthly allotment or other based on her many children. Austin is no genius; he’s in the Navy because it was a way out. He’s serving his second tour in Iraq and is resentful because he joined the Navy specifically to avoid the Army’s burden in wartime. I know several of Austin’s friends through my daughter’s experience; none of them are heroes. But ANY military veteran; anyone like Austin is to be unquestioningly treated to single payer healthcare and the respect of all Republicans because he’s an “American Hero”. Why is he more heroic than someone else? I’m uncomfortable with right wing attitudes that there are real, patriotic Americans and then there are…..us.
DrCanuck said, 4 months ago
Being a Canadian, I am not entirely versed in the fringe groups of American politics. So enlighten me, Wachs, is your answer to ezdeb a fair and accurate depiction of Libertarianism: “I got mine; t’hell with the rest of you”?
harleyquinn
said,
4 months ago
No doctor it is simple. I got mine by following the rules and did not screwup that much. I have me and my family to worry about. You need help well guess what I also do charity. If I see need I help. What I can not understand is the need for some one else to reach into my back pocket and give it to the “less fortunate”
It is not about what I have it is about the t’hell with the rest of you who want to spend what I have broken my back to earn. Only my wife gets to do that.
And E, I think it was Obama that was going to take health care away from the Vets not the hated R’s
And E you did not ask for anything and I am not offern anything. But For the most part I have my own personal responsibilty together. If I did not I would not be able to help those I do. I resent anyone who wants to take that away from me.
Which brings me to my favorite topic and it goes with this strip.
You want to build a better bridge over that gap? Try Fair Tax! It will let those who earn there money keep their money. Those that earn less the poverty keep all their money in prebates.
ezdeb said, 4 months ago
You resent a lot of things, HQ. “The hell with all of you” sums it up, I guess.
Enjoy your life.
ezdeb said, 4 months ago
Oh, and HQ, I’m so glad you have your “personal responsibility together”. Remember, however; unless you are wealthy or well insured, you, like millions of other Americans, are only one car accident, heart attack or cancer strike away from complete financial disaster. I hope fervently that you can be responsible enough to avoid someone else’s carelessness that injures you, or responsibly avoid a lingering illness. I’m glad no bad things ever happen to good, responsible people like you; only irresponsible losers like me. According to your first statement, no doctors for us. Sheesh.
harleyquinn
said,
4 months ago
“According to your first statement, no doctors for us. Sheesh”
Jump to conclusions from a sloppy read or are you making false accusations? I am telling DrCanuck “no”
And as for your wo is me statement, well duh. It is called living. God Fobide anything horrible happen to me or anyone else posting here, but if it did, I would rely on those willing to help. I would not, as i have pointed out, go to big brother government for something I did not put into the system. Envy much? Even the wealthy and well insured are “one away” It is called life.
All I am calling for is personal responibility and not this government save me mentality.
ezdeb said, 4 months ago
No, you fool. The well off and insured are not “one away”. Life is not the same. Seriously. I was “well off” until my now ex decided he preferred his money to the expense of our children, and left. I know the difference between then and now. What do you mean when you say you would “rely on those willing to help”? Who but a health organization could help you if you got really sick? Would you stand on a corner and just ask for help from individuals? Our social and infrastructural web of support comes from organized groups, like hospitals, clinics, public works departments, etc. How do you distinguish between your quick reliance on those willing to help (probably Democratic-funded clinics, etc) and Bad Big Brother?
HQ, I don’t assume I know what you are trying to say when you bang on your keyboard. Your grammar, your punctuation and your spelling are appalling. It is no surprise if a commenter misunderstands you. NOTE: Your computer underlines a word in red if you’ve misspelled it. It alerts you. It’s a tool you should use.
believecommonsense
said,
4 months ago
how surpluses turned into deficits:
http://tinyurl.com/m9ub9h
nation debt by president back to Truman:
http://zfacts.com/p/318.html
CogentModality said, 4 months ago
Way to go ezdeb. Ad Hominem must be your forte! p.s. Spell check isn’t always correct.
ezdeb said, 4 months ago
Cogent, are you saying I attack HQ in an “ad hominem” manner because I say his typing skills are lacking? But I also addressed the issue several times and invited discussion. I reject his premise(s) on their ideology. You can clearly see this in comments, so I’m not sure why you say I am unfairly attacking him. As to your second point, I present these copy/pasted directly from HQ’s posts above. “I am not offern anything”
” responibility”
“all to happy exploit those who feel…”
But you’re probably right. It’s, um, unfair to point out that his posts are often confusing, and I’m sure that spell checkers are not 100% correct; only 99.999999% “No doctor it is simple”. I misunderstood that. My leftie fault. Or Obama’s fault. I’ll take it.
CogentModality said, 4 months ago
Are you trying to tell me that hominem didn’t come up underlined when you typed it in? If that’s so, then the fault must be with my computer.
You are indeed correct in your first sentence. Why attack this person by calling them a fool and then listing their lack of secretarial skills. Everything in between is just opinion and subject to circumstance.
ezdeb said, 4 months ago
Sigh. Yeah. Fool and illiterate are two different things. And, yeah, you’re right! Everything in between is just opinion. Those are what comments are! I will try very hard, as you do, to stick to only, um, cogent comments. I refer you to the other Asay cartoon and your “nob” and “hosehead” comments. Now that is foolish. Fuoolish. Folish. Foolish. Ad Nausium. Ad Nuasium. Nauseum. Nasuim. Cogentmodality. Yep, it caught every single one.
ezdeb said, 4 months ago
Hey, guess what, cogent? I entered the word honchessa into google, cuz I heard it and wanted to know if it was a real word. It is! So is Honcharina. My spellchecker flagged both of them because it didn’t recognize them, either! You are 100% right about the inaccuracy of spell checking.
The great thing about our American english language is its diversity. Thanks to the influx of immigrants, these words are now in common use, and add a richness to our language that wasn’t there before. See, a discussion of spell checking with you turned into a valuable lesson for me! That’s what’s fun about commenting and socializing; not insulting and hate.
CogentModality said, 4 months ago
Holy smoke, you actually admit somebody is better informed than you? Compliment accepted. P.S. My comments are meant to be either humorous or cogent. Sometimes they’re both. Try not to be so bitter.
ezdeb said, 4 months ago
Yeah, and guess what? admitting somebody is better informed than me leads me to thank them. Now, your comments may be meant to be either humorous, cogent or both. Often, they are neither, despite your claim. If cogency is your claim to fame, why do you rely on the snark?
CogentModality said, 4 months ago
I anticipated your second to last sentence. Clearly I could have chose to close that door to your reply with a single sentence, but instead left it open so you could save face. I’ll take my kettle and bid your pot adieu on this subject. Stay black!