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Chuck Asay sifts the events of the day through his biblical worldview and tries to persuade readers to see things his way...that rights are given by a higher authority than the governments of men, that mankind is not the ultimate arbiter of truth and that our Constitutional Republic is worth protecting. Chuck believes ideas, not politicians rule the world. He tries to protect ideas which he thinks are good and attacks ideas he thinks bring harm.
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Ken Warren said, 1 day ago
Well this is pretty clear isn’t it! If you want health care you must want to kill babies.
Abortion is not murder, but if you keep screaming that it is you can bring important issues (issues which oppose) to a halt by pretending that you are doing it to save babies.
Even if this amendment was put into the bill it wouldn’t stop or ban abortions, it is just a smoke screen to stir up emotions and (hopefully) bring the whole thing to a halt, without the Republicans have to stand up and take the blame – I mean how can you blame someone who “saving babies?”
The Republicans attack because they have no plans, policies, or ideas of how to fix the mess they left so they want to get people angry so people will forget it was the Republicans who caused all of these problems.
hank197857
said,
1 day ago
many pregnancies may not be planned, but abortion certainly is premeditated …
NoFearPup
said,
1 day ago
Priorities…Life is number one.
HUMPHRIES
said,
1 day ago
Crackpot toonest.
scottfreitas
said,
1 day ago
People who claim abortion isn’t murder are intellectual sociopaths imo.
Hey KEN! If you’d been aborted, would you be alive right now to tell us that abortion isn’t murder? NO? Why not? If abortion doesn’t kill human life, then we should be able to abort humans without affecting them! Basic logic, there, genius.
Fools who play pretend games concerning human life are the worst, most dangerous kinds of fools alive.
There is no lower, more degraded culture than one which practices human sacrifice. We see that all throughout the pages of History. Societies which allow women to murder their own young always end up destroying themselves and others, and America won’t be any different. Hell, I’m old enough to have seen the steady downhill progress the US has underwent since 1973. Our nation becomes steadily more ugly, coarsened, and nihilistic with each passing year. People’s consciences today are so deadened compared with what they were when I was young it’s sickening…
ANandy said, 1 day ago
The typical angry, bitter loser addresses the one who conveys the idea rather than the idea. Note the pattern.
An amoral tactic often used; divert attention from the moral issue by redefining it as a partisan issue.
Assay is addressing the requirement that those who strongly object to a moral issue surrender their property to support those who have no moral standards. Pretty basic concept which, if one adhears to our Constitution, needs not be an issue as our Constitution provides no authority to the Federal Government in matters of individual healthcare.
Kevin said, 1 day ago
So the premise here is that “We shouldn’t advance a Health care bill if there is any chance that $1 could be used to pay for an abortion.” Doesn’t matter if the mother’s life is at risk, she was a raped ten year old, whatever. The latest estimates are 35 Million more people will get basic health care with this bill and have their quality of life improved but if it puts one fetus at risk it’s a flawed bill seems to be the growing consensus of the prolife movement. That doesn’t sound very prolife to me.
PGarrigues said, 1 day ago
I’ve always supported a woman’s right to choose; she can choose whether or not to get pregnant. Once she’s pregnant, her choice has been made and now her unborn child should have a right to live just like the rest of us.
Requiring that my tax dollars pay for the medical cost to kill an unborn child (or “terminate a pregnancy” to ease your conscience and make it sound more palatable) is unbelievable. Lucky for those of you reading this post that past generations placed more importance on the sanctity of human life than we seem to these days.
Thanks for the cartoon Chuck.
michael
said,
about 24 hours ago
Not putting abortion into a health-care plan is insane. For example, my ex-wife’s pregnancy went horribly wrong in the first six weeks and she needed a D&C (classic abortion procedure) or she would have died. There was zero chance of bringing the baby to term and zero chance of her surviving.
Are you commenters telling me that not only should we have been faced with the prospect of losing a child, we should have had to pay for the visit ourselves? Do you people understand how many things can go wrong in a pregnancy?
Kevin said, about 24 hours ago
That’s a rather Myopic point of view you have there PG. From where I’m sitting our country doesn’t have a softsport for Human life as we drop bombs and kick in doors in Iran, Afghanistan, Viet Nam, Japan, Germany, Korea, etc. And don’t forget doing it to each other in the 1860’s. We have always had a pragmatic approach to human life as a country…Right down to the death penalty. I didn’t hear you decrying those deaths? But you and your prolife friends trot out your tired old dogma every time your tax dollars could come in contact with an abortion. Where was your moral indignation when your tax dollars were being used to send our troops to kill and get killed over seas. Where is your compassion for those people without adequate healthcare who suffer needlessly from untreated illness?
If you object to the Healthcare bill then say it and state your reasons. Personally, I think it is poorly planned and needs some debate and adjustment but that won’t happen while people are busy chasing red herrings like “ooh it could help a poor woman get an abortion who otherwise couldn’t afford it… It must be evil.”
striper77 said, about 23 hours ago
Currently 2 out 5 African American pregnancies end in abortion.
Are you liberals trying to say that all these are do to rape, incest, mothers life at risk, etc.
I think not.
Most of the abortions are done only as a last minute birth control. Most people involved in abortion are easy, sluts, gullible, no values, morals or whatever. If they had any morals or values a lot less of these would be happening. But the public schools, colleges, media and government are endorsing this.
There is always a cause and effect. Right and wrong.
I like to watch forensic files, America’s most wanted and shows like that. It does not take long to figure out why these people make these bad decisions. It is usually do to a life style of anything goes.
I usually watch them after my children go to bed due to the graphic details.
The one last night had a 10 year old girl in England that killed a young boy. She actually got by with it and even told people that she done it. This happened in 1966 so they thought there is no way a little girl would do this. Commercial break. The program started again. The girls mother was a know prostitute. The little girl was exposed to her mother performing her duties as a prostitute and then showed the mother beating a guy with a whip. I guess that would be classified as S-M. That is far as I watched (their becomes a point of no further interest). I do not know how many people this girl killed or how long she got by with it. But that was as far as I wanted to view of this programming.
Back to the point, what kind of moral issues and decisions do you think a little girl exposed to this type of life style would make?
That is were we are today in America.
DrCanuck said, about 22 hours ago
scottfrietas, if abortion were outlawed in the US, what do you think the penalty should be for a woman who had one?
Bruce4671 said, about 22 hours ago
well if the ploy is to get people angry it sure worked with Ken.
Abortion isn’t killing babies…Hmmmmmm
Women have a RIGHT and A RESPOSIBILITY to choice. Yeah not getting pregnant would be the correct choice but gee why should she not have had all that fun….hmmmmm
Tragedy strikes and people die and sometimes you must decide who it will be and that is your right and choice and YES YES YES you should HAVE to pay for it. Of course, we should all have to pay for our own health care…hmmmmm
It’s not about abortion, it’s not about health care. The people in office TODAY (not the idots that were there before) have decided that now is the time to reduce the masses to the lowest common denominator, leaving them dependent on government for the necessary things (and basics is all that will be provided for the masses).
Not matter how big your heart is or how much you want to take care of everyone, you can’t. You MUST allow people to be responsible for their own welfare……
IF EVERYONE HAD A JOB NONE OF THIS OTHER STUFF WOULD BE AN ISSUE!!!!!!!!
Stan Koehler
said,
about 22 hours ago
Maybe the dead babies are the kids that die each year because they didn’t have health insurance and Chuck just mislabled the cartoon.
Howard McFann
said,
about 22 hours ago
Women’s rights are always trampelled by the male ego. A man can buy Viagra, get a woman pregnant, then walk away and say,”Have it Baby, but don’t look to me to support it, it was your fault.” Chances on, he will get away with it.
David Mattera said, about 22 hours ago
Fact: Abortion stops a beating Heart
Question: What is the value of that heart?
PlainBill said, about 22 hours ago
Anybody who believes the Republican leadership is opposed to abortion is fooling themselves. For the past 18 years their insurance plan covered elective abortions.
http://tinyurl.com/yblx272
striper77 said, about 21 hours ago
The liberals on this site keep mentioning kids whom died due to not having health coverage.
This is far from the truth. Any child that is in a family that earns less than a certain amount can get health insurance for free for their kids. A family with 4 kids that earns $20 an hour can get free health insurance for their kids.
The second ploy a man will not take care of their children. If a lose women can narrow down their lovers to a certain amount. It may be hard due to some sleep with a different person every night. (This kind of tells were America is).
They can report the man to the state. They will garnish his paycheck for child support. If a judge orders support and it is not paid, the man goes to jail. The state provides all the welfare for the women and child.
serajame said, about 21 hours ago
Just a question. Does anyone know if Germany or France or some of the other European health care systems have the contoversy we are having on abortion and health care ? If so how are they addressing it ?
charlie555 said, about 20 hours ago
michael
What you describe is not abortion in the sense of a direct attack on the child. A procedure was done to save her life that sadly also resulted in the death of her child. Your wife did not go to the hospital primarily to kill her child. This will never be banned and everybody sincerely debating the issue knows this.
johndh123 said, about 20 hours ago
Striper, you are correct. What happens becomes what military minds (or military haters) ‘mission creep’.
Read this Michael. The intent, initially, was for circumstances just as you cited. Your ex was within her first tri-mester and had troubles (for which I am sorry) Of course, every effort should have been made,(and apparently was) to save her life. What has transpired, has become a wholesale termination of otherwise viable human life. Would it be fair to say that some people might find that troubling, without wanting to ‘control a woman’s body’? Beyond that, those same people want us ‘conscientious objectors’ to fund something they are profoundly troubled by. Do I sound unreasonable to you Michael?
I trust you are more reasoned than Ken who suggests that the Republican stance is simply to ‘stir up emotions’. Talk about demagogery!
dtriedel said, about 20 hours ago
So, just so I understand the last comment, Michael’s ex should not have had the D&C? Should have died instead? I hope that is not what you are saying.
Ken Warren said, about 19 hours ago
Since this has become, as Asay intended, very – well very all over the place, I think I’ll go in a different direction and ask a question, I know I could probably look this up, but I’m lazy, so here is my question:
If, in Muslim tradition, and I guess religion, it is a father’s duty to kill his daughter if she brings disgrace to the family by being alone with a male, or getting raped, what is the duty of the father of the boy/man? Has he brought disgrace to the family, does the father have to kill him, or does he just give one of those “I’m very disapointed in you” looks that Bush senior must give to Bush junior?
vhammon
said,
about 19 hours ago
Commandment VI: Thou shalt not kill.
If one is against abortion under all circumstances, and without any choice by the mother and her doctor, then it follows that one must be against all war, without the choice of politicians and their strategists.
If it’s not the principle, ‘pro-life,’ across the board, it is merely an ideological dogma.
striper77 said, about 18 hours ago
Vhannon and ken warren,
The Muslim religion sure does not sound like a peace religion from your example.
They might be scheduling a bombing in your area in the near future.
Killing babies is one issue, war is another and self defense is another.
Killing a baby in abortion is destroying the most innocent of human life. It has no sin. That is the pro-life stance.
War is protecting your country from terrorists. War was approved in the Bible.
Self defense is defending home from harm. It is mentioned in the Bible.
The Death Penalty was in the bible as well.
You cannot mix them. One is innocent the rest is not.
I guess in a liberal reprobate mind you would not know the difference.
You must have a liberal buffer like Dr. Cannuck that does not allow common sense through.
vhammon
said,
about 18 hours ago
striper77, Plenty of innocents get killed in war. Our sanctions of Iraq in the 1990s are generally accepted to have killed over 500,000 children through malnutrition and a lack of medical supplies. Our Secretary of State, Madeleine Albright, at the time, when asked about these deaths said, “On balance, it was worth it.”
There are nearly always alternatives to war, but too many people who just can’t see them because they are blinded by fear and big egos.
When you must resort to calling the people who have different opinions from you ugly names, you are saying to all, I cannot justify my thinking on its merits.
tpenna
said,
about 18 hours ago
Strictly speaking, both genocide and slavery are approved of in the Bible as well, striper77. We don’t apply these mores directly to our modern lives, though.
Just to be clear, I’m not here advocating for a particular policy regarding abortion, war, or the death penalty.
Rather, I am advocating honesty and humility in the way we read our scriptures. And in the way we apply our own religious convictions to others.
vhammon
said,
about 17 hours ago
And, when I think about all the Iraqi innocents who have died, and who will suffer grievous harm long into the future from the powdered depleted uranium munitions we have littered all over Iraq…
And, when I think about our own soldiers and the cancers they will get, and the children they will bear with development delays and deformities because of their exposure to those same munitions…
And, I wonder, did all of the people who have dedicated so much energy to halting abortions in the U.S., put an equal amount of energy into demanding that the President and his staff look very carefully at the reasons given for going to war, and consider alternatives.
The rest of the world was waving their arms and shouting that the Bush II excuses for invading Iraq were bogus, and not enough people were listening.
Jim said, about 16 hours ago
I don’t support abortion , personally . Having said that , I think abortion should only be done to protect the life of the mother , if need be , or if she was raped by family or anyone . I could support that kind of abortion covered by national heath care .
Ultimately I’m pro prevention , to unwanted pregnancy . We need to make our youth understand the consequences of such actions of life . Make them learn it’s in their best interest to take responsibility for their actions . The government can only effect human behavior , only so much , through the law .
Half seriously , if I had my druthers , women or men couldn’t be the guardians of children , unless they could pass some kind of basic competency evaluation test .
Goodness . I think this is the first time I got on the soapbox , on one of the editorial cartoons . Peace y’all .
senorbullwinkle
said,
about 16 hours ago
^ Well Jimmie, welcome to Hell.
What if the baby will be deformed, ( guess you cant say re-tar-ed ), has no limbs, or brain ? what the girl is 12 ? or the fetus dies at 26 weeks ? or the mother is in accident, or has cancer, in a coma ?
omQ R
said,
about 15 hours ago
DrCanuck asked:
“scottfrietas, if abortion were outlawed in the US, what do you think the penalty should be for a woman who had one?”
Until very recently, that was the case in Portugal. Women were being prosecuted for having had abortions.
It received high international media prominence in 2001-ish I think, when over a dozen women were prosecuted up north.
It was the only EU country that prosecuted and jailed women for abortion. A few years later the Dutch group Women on Waves, invited by a few Portuguese movements, publically challenged the Portuguese government by offering abortions to Portuguese women on a boat but were forced to stay in international waters as the Portuguese navy sent out a couple of warships to block it. (Just last year the EU court ruled against the Portuguese government stating it had acted illegally). This brouhaha brought more unwanted attention to the archaic and medieval practices within Portugal. Because of the international attention and shame of prosecuting these women, the matter was brought up more and more and debated more fiercely.
In the meantime a new party took over government and a referendum was promised.
In 2007 a referendum was held, and passed with 60%, for legalised abortions up to 10 weeks. 10 years before a similar referendum had failed by something silly like 1%.
I think Portugal and the Republic of Ireland still have the most restrictions on abortion within the EU (not sure about the recent arrivals to the EU like Poland) so the UK receives many Irish & Portuguese women who have not met the restrictive criteria in their respective countries.
Jim said, about 15 hours ago
senorbullwinkle Heh . Thanks for the welcome . : )
What if she’s 12 ? I covered that under rape , I believe .
As for the others , good questions all . As I said I don’t support abortion , but think those question could only be answered by the woman having the child . I don’t really care to overturn Roe V. Wade .
The baby not being alive ? No brain ? I’d like to think that the child has no life at that point .
Like I said . I’m ultimately pro-prevention . I’m in favor of rearing the young with enough foresight as possible . The legal guardians having the ability to care for their young .
Personally , the abortion of a human because of some non-life threatening deformity , that can be overcome by medicine or proper care , smacks of a kind of eugenics , to me .
Then again , I’m a man . Who am I to tell a woman what to do with her reproductive ability ?
All kinds of questions . When does a human’s rights begin ?
Thank you for listening to my two cents .
charlie555 said, about 15 hours ago
Deliberate abortion is homicide.
dtroutma said, about 15 hours ago
MENSES IS MURDER! BAN TAMPONS!
Abortion should not be the prime means of birth control, but those who believe “abstinence” is the only alternative are looney tune, or just painfully ignorant “Palinites”. Biology, and fetal development, or lack thereof, is complex, and can result in people making complex, personal, decisions.
If we pay for Viagra with federal funds, we should pay for all and any female needs as well- period.
Oh, yes, separation of church and state IS critical to survival of our society, and proving more so every day as religious fanatics try to run the show, and the world, as demonstrated by the horrible errors of the last eight years resulting in the deaths of real live humans, not just multi-celled organisms unable to live outside the womb.
DrCanuck said, about 13 hours ago
Thanks for the answer, omQ. You’ll notice that neither scott nor any other Christian answered me. Once again, I can’t find a Christian who understands his own religion well enough to discuss it beyond “AH be-LEEVE” and then running away. charlie555’s trick. So frustrating.
Ken Warren said, about 12 hours ago
Guess I couldn’t get anyone to go in another direction — the sad truth is most “religious” people aren’t interested in the Bible, they only interested in what their church or religion tells them, it eaiser then trying to figure it out for themselves – I’m sure God will forgive them on Judgement Day.
citynights
said,
about 12 hours ago
It seems like gov insurance reform is going to be used to determine our health care. What about preventive treatments and privacy.
utziii said, about 11 hours ago
Why blame republicans, it was a Blue Dog democrat that fought for the amendment?
Loco80 said, about 10 hours ago
Mamatrout, My plan does not cover Viagra, and I have a very good plan. If the Obama’s plan does, that offers another objection. We should not cover that “treatment.”
Canuck- why do you phrase your comment so racist. There are caucsian Christians. And I do understand my faith. You believe in God too, you just think that you are He. You are wrong.
scottfreitas
said,
about 2 hours ago
Canuck: you’ve proven yourself to be such an absolute illiterate in terms of reading comprehension I simply choose not to engage in conversation with you.
You’re so cock-sure of yourself that Christianity isn’t real, so you can just reap what you sow. I’ve read enough of your nonsense to know that Jesus’s warnings not to cast our pearls before swine surely applies to you tenfold…