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  1. Bluejayz

    Bluejayz said, 3 months ago

    This program caused GM to restart an assembly line and add back hundreds of workers. That is worth more than all the bailouts to the bank CEOs. $3B is nothing compared to the $180B that AIG got to pay retired execs and take junkets.

    It’s money well spent!

  2. oldlegodad

    oldlegodadGenius_badge said, 3 months ago

    It ain’t over til ALL of the vouchers are paid to the dealers who fell for this scam.

  3. cjr53

    cjr53 said, 3 months ago

    Bluejayz, not only well spent, but helps the little guys have new cars, helps our environment. It was so right on many levels.

    The only real drawback is the already rich, right-wing, republican types don’t have big personal bonuses to take home this time.

  4. NoFearPup

    NoFearPupGenius_badge said, 3 months ago

    Helps our environment? Where are all those rotting, toxic cars going to go? India? Should we morally accept that (which we do in other areas, already)? The first layer of carbon on those spark plugs and your brand-new eco-car is farting out just as many chemicals as the so-called clunker.

    Oh,no. I’m starting to heave (Lefty-nausea). I’m movin’ on , quick…

  5. Sandor_at_the_Zoo

    Sandor_at_the_Zoo said, 3 months ago

    Now if that money would get to dealers who fronted it. I bet that money will never come. Worse yet, the dealers were ordered to destroy the “clunkers” they got, so they can’t resell them and get some money back.

  6. kreole

    kreole said, 3 months ago

    Well, let’s see—-

    (1) We’ve got less used cars on the lots that would’ve been available to low income people.

    (2) Only the people who could afford new car insurance, tags and new car payments were the ones buying.

    (3) Taxpayers are paying for this, not the administration.

    (4) The original investment to build these cars is wasted, as their life cycle wasn’t over.. The energy expended to build one new car to replace one “klunker” will never be paid back in the difference saved in MPG between the two. If this program is a good idea, why stop it?

  7. Corosive Frog

    Corosive Frog said, 2 months ago

    NFP; Where are those cars going? Have you heard about recycling? They would have been thrown away sometime anyway.

    Sooky Rottweiler says;
    Long time no see, pup. Want one of my milkbones? Here, have one.

  8. PlainBill

    PlainBill said, 2 months ago

    NAndy, are you a total fool, or just gullible? Check the CARS website - www.cars.gov The $4500 rebate is NOT taxable.

    On the issues of dealers not getting their rebates, the reason is rather interesting. Car dealers are notorious for not filling in all the information on their contracts. The good old “Don’t worry, I’ll fill that in later” ploy. It seems many dealers have been doing the same thing on the applications for reimbursement on the CARS program. And it’s coming back to bite them.

  9. NoFearPup

    NoFearPupGenius_badge said, 2 months ago

    Thanks, Sooky. CRUNCH! , munch, munch. munch.

    Ms.Frog, go to your community recycling center and you’ll see pretty much everything that gets recycled. Cardboard, paper, plastic, aluminum, copper, mulch…and sometimes Christmas trees.

  10. churchillwasright

    churchillwasright said, 2 months ago

    TO MY LIBERAL “FRIENDS”: Since you are too delusional and/or political to see why CFC was a bad idea, and can’t follow simple logic, let me offer this simple analogy:

    Imagine that the auto industry is a very long, slow, meandering river filled with logs. Each log represents an older car that will be traded in for a new one. During good times, there may be a log every 1/4 mile; during lean times there may be a log every mile. What CFC did was use a souped-up barge to push all the logs in the river, from the ones closer to its mouth, to the ones all the way up the river (those that would have reached the river’s mouth a year from now) to the rivers mouth. After all the logs go through the wood mill, will there be any logs left in the river? Did CFC do anything to replenish the logs going into the river?

    And what about the wood mill at the mouth of the river? Under the normal course of events, it produces lumber (used cars and parts). But under CFC, we’ve thrown that lumber away. However we haven’t decreased the demand for lumber. Those seeking it will have to go to other sources, and because there will be less of a supply, its price will increase. That is called the “law of supply and demand”. Whether you are “a little socialist”, or a full fledged red flag waving Marxist, it is an economic fact that can’t be denied.

    And the laid off wood mill worker that had been recalled to meet this sudden spurt of logs will have to be laid off again because there are no more logs.

    I hope I have made this simple enough for even the most simple of you.

  11. HUMPHRIES

    HUMPHRIESGenius_badge said, 2 months ago

    Whoa, heavy commentary here today.

  12. Corosive Frog

    Corosive Frog said, 2 months ago

    NFP: there is aluminum in cars. There is also plastic.