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  1. greyolddave

    greyolddave said, over 3 years ago

    Keep in mind when these guys said “we the people” and “all men are created equal” they really meant wealthy white men. Ordinary men could not vote until the 1840s and women not until the 1920s and non-whites in some places even today.

  2. Respectful Troll

    Respectful Troll said, over 3 years ago


    In Colonial Williamsburg, they reenact moments of our revolutionary history daily. On one occasion, after a man announced that the colonies were going to cut their ties to England and all men would be free, he was followed by a black woman. In the voice of a person from that time who wrote of those days, she talks about how her son, a slave, thought that freedom was going to be for them as well. She laments that the white people were getting the hopes of black slaves up with their talk of freedom for all men. It is a very powerful scene from our history.
    You bring up a good point Greydave.
    Thank you.

  3. narrowminded

    narrowminded said, over 3 years ago


    “and non-whites in some places even today.”
    Where? When? If you are a legal citizen of this country and put forth any effort at all your vote will be cast. There’s only one group of people actively suppressing legitimate voting and that’s Democrats. Having to prove your identity is not suppression, it is validating. The only reason to oppose proof of identity to vote is so fraud can be committed.

  4. wmconelly

    wmconelly said, over 3 years ago

    Suppose we go the Aussie way: Everybody who’s eligible to vote, votes OR pays a fine for not voting, meaning $50 or less. That would encourage voter turnout, REQUIRE that the eligible voter list be assembled and verified in advance, and lead to a better more functional democracy. Who wouldn’t be happy with that outcome?
    Answer: the gerrymandering, poll taxing, discriminatory, old boy bosses who want to run government out of a back office at the country club.

  5. Robert Landers

    Robert Landers said, over 3 years ago

    You have indirectly stated something worthwhile here (I know you did not mean to, but heck, give credit where it is due). That is both parties should develop a database that lists all of the requirements for voting, and then spend whatever it takes to see to it that their respective bases have those requirements. Relatively simple in actuality!!

  6. Bruce4671

    Bruce4671 said, over 3 years ago


    Which is why there are 27 amendments to the constitution with 15, 19, 24 and 26 specifically written about voting rights.

    As in any worthwhile endeavor change is inevitable.

    Or are you for using the same standards used in the 18th century? I seem to remember so many cries to move into the 21st……..LOL

  7. The Wolf In Your Midst

    The Wolf In Your Midst said, over 3 years ago

    Make it free, make it easy to get (no needing to take a bus across town to a single crowded government office) and make it the law that an employer MUST give an employee paid time off to acquire it (rather than the employee having to fear losing pay, or even their job), and then I MIGHT consider Voter ID to be anything but an attempt to disenfranchise the poor.

  8. I Play One On TV

    I Play One On TV said, over 3 years ago

    Maybe that’s easy where you are. In Virginia, at least, you live in a voting district. You have to vote at one place, and are not allowed to vote at any other polling place. Each place has a list of eligible voters for that location, so you cannot vote more than once in the same city. You cannot vote if you are not at the polling location to which you’ve been assigned. If your state doesn’t have these requirements, I suggest you write to your representatives to ensure that it does.

  9. yusodum

    yusodum said, over 3 years ago

    That is brilliant, actually. It enforces people to listen to what the candidates are saying rather than “I’m voting for my guy even though he’s an idiot, because no way am I voting for yours”

  10. dtroutma

    dtroutma GoComics PRO Member said, over 3 years ago

    Interesting that in my vote by mail state, your SIGNATURE is your I.D., and very verifiable to VOTE. Showing I.D. initially to REGISTER makes some sense to prove citizenship, but “voter I.D.” is NOT FREE in any state, period, because there is alway cost involved in obtaining “proof documents”.

  11. DJGravityX

    DJGravityX said, over 3 years ago


    I wouldn’t be happy with such an Aussie requirement simply because there are far too few people who actually pay attention to politics today, which may not always be so bad considering how biased and dishonest much of the media outlets are.
    Unintelligent voters damage outcomes because they pick for stupid stuff like sex, skin color, hair style, attractive spouse, nice voice, can play an instrument. I was guilty at 18 voting for Clinton.. loved his presence and the way he presented himself on MTV to young folk. I had no idea if anything he said was good or bad, true or untrue, etc. Just that he looked good, sounded good and seemed to relate. Those aren’t good reasons to vote for the president of your country let alone a local leader, but many of us do.
    So if a person doesn’t want to vote, that’s on them. It’s a shame more people don’t get involved and a shame some politically intelligent people don’t vote as well. But it’s better to be free to make the choice of not voting and letting everyone else decide for you than being forced to vote or be fined. That’s not real liberty.

  12. ARodney

    ARodney said, over 3 years ago

    Harley, a Republican activist in Nevada tried what you suggest, and she got caught and paid a huge fine. It is a FACT that voter ID laws have taken the vote from women who have voted for 70 years but don’t drive. It is FANTASY that there is measurable voter fraud in this country. This is about suppressing the votes of students and minorities.

  13. DJGravityX

    DJGravityX said, over 3 years ago

    @Robert Landers

    Actually, that’s not that bad of an idea Robert.
    Question: If a political party were to pay to get people the necessary identification so they could vote, would that be a method of voter fraud by essentially buying votes?
    Zipi’s idea leans that way. Robert’s is more about providing information and means to their bases, but not actually purchasing their ID.
    Challenge: name a democratic nation in the world apart from the US that does NOT require voter ID? Good luck. Not even the leftist, socialistic nations allow voting without ID. And whether you are willing to admit it or not, the ability to commit fraud is much greater when ID is not enforced. It’s also doubtful that there are as many people who want to vote but can’t because they don’t have ID than there are instances of fraud. I don’t care if the fraud favors my candidates or not, it’s wrong and making it easy to do is only something the greatest perpetrators of such fraud would desire. Very basic logical deduction.

  14. DJGravityX

    DJGravityX said, over 3 years ago


    I love your fact vs fantasy concepts you pull out of thin air. Plan on visiting a few voter sites by chance?

  15. DJGravityX

    DJGravityX said, over 3 years ago


    I don’t agree with a signature only. As an example you’d be hard pressed to find my signature the same twice. It’s a sloppy mess like a Dr’s signature. I admit it. Even a lady at my ballot location commented on the shame of my signature. She asked, where did you learn to write. I said, “here” with a slight chuckle (voting was taking place in the local school building, that I did in fact attend K-8).
    My signature has changed even in the last year, let alone since i registered as a high school senior. It’s not a true verifiable source, especially since there is never a sig to compare to.
    IDs simply make sense. It’s required worldwide and used to be here when i first started voting. I had to bring my voter registration card, picture ID and another form of ID (in my case my SS card). At 18 i had all of that despite having no car or driver’s license and still in high school. And i voted.
    If it’s such a big deal that a person wants to vote, they have all the time in the world to get ID. I just wonder how anyone opens a bank account, gets a job, drives, or does much of anything in today’s society without ID. You can’t go to college without ID so stop the bull droppings about college student suppression. Heck, they have a COLLEGE ID!!!!
    Sometimes it’s emotionally and mentally painful to deal with such foolishness.
    Fair point about it always costs something. Even if the voter ID itself were free if one doesn’t have the other required docs to get the voter ID then it will definitely cost something at some point.
    The question is, if voting is so flipping important, and it is, and every vote counts… take a bit of effort and get your freaking ID or deal with being too irresponsible and suffer the repercussions of your irresponsibility.
    If there are great, unmanageable difficulties in obtaining IDs then that is a problem that needs to be solved, but it shouldn’t stop the voting ID requirement.

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