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  1. believecommonsense

    believecommonsenseGenius_badge said, 4 months ago

    Be afraid … be very afraid.

  2. HOWGOZIT

    HOWGOZIT said, 4 months ago

    Yes of Pelosi

  3. parkersinthehouse

    parkersinthehouse said, 4 months ago

    the cheney cult is at the edge of destruction

    it has to happen you know

    it’s shocking that these people have not been brought before a world tribunal and convicted of war crimes

    imagine where america would be now

    if any other country did to another country what bush/cheney did to iraq, imagine what the world would - should - have done to the perpetrators.

  4. nomad2112

    nomad2112 said, 4 months ago

    The Cheney cult is a leftist fabrication.

  5. HUMPHRIES

    HUMPHRIESGenius_badge said, 4 months ago

    Nomiee - I . . don’t . . thinks . . so.

  6. 4uk4ata

    4uk4ata said, 4 months ago

    I don’t know about cult, but if this guy broke the law and overstepped his priviledges - and I suspect that he did - he should be tried. If he is found innocent, great. If he is guilty, let him suffer the punishment.

    And the above maxim would apply to anyone, left and right.

  7. PlainBill

    PlainBill said, 4 months ago

    I see three issues on this. The first is the program itself. I see nothing wrong with ‘thinking outside the box’ and trying to find a better way to eliminate threats to our country. It’s too bad it never became workable, but there is no fault for trying.

    The second is keeping a covert operation secret. The law states that congress is to be kept informed, even if only in broad terms; that was carefully blocked and those responsible should be held accountable.

    The third is that once found unworkable, word of the existence of the project itself could be a useful weapon. Imagine the effect on a terrorist organization when it’s leaders realize each new recruit MIGHT be a US agent.

  8. DrCanuck

    DrCanuck said, 4 months ago

    America will never regain its moral standing in the world until its war criminals are brought to justice.

  9. lalas

    lalas said, 4 months ago

    Nomad – given the number of idiot apologists he has, and how hard the equivocate to convince themselves he was right to ignore the law… it should be called a cult.

  10. GNWachs

    GNWachsGenius_badge said, 4 months ago

    DrCanuck, in what prison is Brian Mulroney?

  11. dtroutma

    dtroutma said, 4 months ago

    Outside the box is okay. Outside the law is not, and should end up putting him in a box, a tiny one. Madoff will get lonely, so he could use company.

  12. DrCanuck

    DrCanuck said, 4 months ago

    GNWack-o: Give us time. Do you know who Karlheim Schriber is?

  13. churchillwasright

    churchillwasright said, 4 months ago

    The problem is that the left has never believed that there is a war on terror, nor that one was ever needed. Therefore anything that was ever done to fight that non-existent war was wrong.

  14. believecommonsense

    believecommonsenseGenius_badge said, 4 months ago

    church, I disagree with you premise that the “left” doesn’t believe terrorism should be fought. Many of us belief we took our eyes off the ball by going into Iraq on false premises and not going after bin Laden and Al Qaida.

  15. 4uk4ata

    4uk4ata said, 4 months ago

    @Churchillwasright - depends. Drugs were fought a long time before the War on Drugs (TM), were they not? Terrorism is to be opposed, but not every way is acceptable - or works. Heck, some of what Cheney and co came up was terrorism in itself.

    BTW, I think most people worldwide supported the operation in Afghanistan (you know, Taliban, Usama and all that). It was only when Bush and Co started peddling that stuff about how Iraq was the Enemy that opinions started to change.

  16. DrCanuck

    DrCanuck said, 4 months ago

    Some kids egged my car, so I want my government to declare a “war on vandalism” and invade a foreign country.

    You can’t declare a war on a noun or on a concept. Terrorism is a strategy used by paramilitary forces to get larger, established militaries to over-react. You can only go after the people who have aggressed against you. (D’uh, let’s go fight some terror today.)

    Which is why America will lose this war. Few Americans have the first idea who they are fighting and why.

  17. lalas

    lalas said, 4 months ago

    Wow! Paint with a broad brush much there Churchill?

    Most on the left knew that Iraq was idiocy piled on top of lunacy and lies. But most agree that Afghanistan was unavoidable (well…. after 9/11 slipped past the vacationing Bush anyway). However, everybody knows that Afghanistan is the graveyard of civilizations, and little good can be expected from it.

  18. churchillwasright

    churchillwasright said, 4 months ago

    ^ Yes. Since the looney left continues to spout the lie that “Bush lied” (see factcheck .org), I’ve decided to paint with a broad brush.

  19. motivemagus

    motivemagus said, 4 months ago

    The Downing Street letter makes it pretty clear, churchill, that Bush was either a liar or a fool regarding Iraq, let alone the fact that the same plan for Iraq was floated in his father’s administration by the same people. Take your pick.