Bottomliners by Eric and Bill Teitelbaum

Bottomliners

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  1. randayn

    randayn GoComics PRO Member said, 11 months ago

    Obamacare on the march!

  2. erictee

    erictee said, 11 months ago

    Policies that hopefully reimburse the doctor a little better than Obamacare will…OB care will drive many physicians out of practice.

  3. INGSOC

    INGSOC GoComics PRO Member said, 11 months ago

    You were before them, so your wait is considered, pre existing..

  4. emptc12

    emptc12 said, 11 months ago

    I work with several men whose wives and daughters and daughters-in-law are nurses (not a statistically valid survey, I realize) and from what they say, together with my personal observations in hospitals and nursing homes it seems to me that nurses do a lot of the medical work. Why not pay the doctors less and give it to the nurses? This might also pertain to relationships such as executives-administrative assistants, professors-teaching assistants, lawyers-paralegals.
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    Really, I’ve thought for many years that TV shows portraying doctors, lawyers, even policemen, have made saints out of those in certain professions way beyond their actual worth.
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    In fact, to get back to solely medical matters, there are machines called “auto-doctors” that are being designed that might do many of the routine things that doctors and nurses do now.
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    We are at the point where there soon won’t be enough doctors to adequately cover people in our health care system. We will have to re-define who is qualified to give medical care, or automate it so routine procedures are done more efficiently.
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    Despise Obamacare all you want. This is the coming thing.

  5. MrRobots

    MrRobots said, 11 months ago

    @emptc12

    I understand your point about nurses being undervalued, but I must ask; if you need a serious operation (say brain surgery) do you want an underpaid surgeon doing it?
    Sure it would be great to know that your attending nurses are getting the wage they deserve (and I do believe they deserve more – but pay the doctors less?

    Which leads me to my second point; obamacare.
    Have you ever needed medical attention in a 2nd world country (ie England) or worse a third world country?

    You will find out very quickly that unless you have sufficient funds to see a private doctor (and pay his rate) you WILL receive SUBSTANDARD care.

    The poor to mediocre doctors will stay in the government system and collect their government checks while you die waiting to see one in about 6 months.

    The good doctors set up private practice and get paid what they are worth.
    If they are not worth it – they don’t stick around long.

    Now couple this with an influx of ‘tens of thousands’ of illegal aliens (because the borders are wide open) and the government has declared free medical attention to anyone (citizen or not) and I think you might start to get the picture of what quality of care you’ll receive and how long it will take to even get it..

    This is where we’re headed with obamacare. So as you said ‘this is the coming thing’.

    Drats – why didn’t I just sign the bill instead of reading it first? Pass me the kool-aid ms. pelosi

  6. emptc12

    emptc12 said, 11 months ago

    @MrRobots

    Thanks for your comment. I didn’t mean to get on my high horse about this. The waters are so muddied on this issue that an ordinary person such as I am doesn’t know what to think.
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    Big money is involved here. Would that health care was a national concern 200 years ago, but understanding of medicine was primitive then. One was better off not having a doctor treat you, actually, because he so often did the exactly the wrong thing. So sickness was considered a divine judgment. Death in childbirth was so common that men often had several wives because of it. High child mortality rates were a given. Average life expectancy in 1900 was 47 years .
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    Unfortunately, or unavoidably, as our medical knowledge increased, then money interested became involved, expensive treatments, expensive education to learn those treatments, and a mystique arose about doctoring. Part of it was true, but part was not. Whereas a basic understanding of nutrition, hygiene, preventive treatments at early stages of diseases, plus the genetic and cellular nature of diseases would have made for a healthier population.
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    A healthy nation has healthy people. It is the most important investment a country makes.There should be a national health care system open to everybody. Mental health care, too. Nutrition counseling to counteract poor eating habits encouraged by food businesses. Better sleeping habits, now disrupted by entertainment businesses. Exercise, now replaced by spectator sports . And so on.
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    Look, I’m writing this fast and sloppy. As it is now, we serve a System instead of the System t serving us. Freedom is a fuzzy concept. Our financial system has made it a sin or personal failing to be unsuccessful. Our highest calling is to be good consumers.
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    Our modern world population, increasingly urbanized, will eventually breed a disease so horrible that large numbers will die quickly, and the rest so confused they will die, too. It will probably begin in communities with poor medical treatments or none at all. This might be caught in time in everyone, no matter their ability to pay, was covered by adequate affordable health care. No hassle, no shame. No politics. I think politics to the extent it has taken hold of everything is a disease in itself.
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    Anyway, thanks for your time. I probably won’t live long enough to see the outcome one way or the other.

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