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Bob Gorrell

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  1. sw10mm

    sw10mm said, over 1 year ago

    Almost 80% of their 8th graders can’t read. Not something you bring to the table looking for a raise.

  2. RussellNash

    RussellNash said, over 1 year ago

    @sw10mm

    No reason to let reality get in the way of stats. Even in the south you don’t have 80% reading under the proficiency level, and the proficiency level is a lot higher than just being able to read. Also, there is a direct correlation between reading proficiency and per-pupil expenditures. That means if you want the kids to learn, you need to pay for quality teachers.

    http://febp.newamerica.net/k12/rankings/naep8read

  3. dtroutma

    dtroutma GoComics PRO Member said, over 1 year ago

    NCLB is responsible for the increase in “administrative costs” as well as the decline in “teaching standards” that require “teaching to the test”. That the materials for these programs just happen to come from Neil Bush’s company? Pure coincidence, right?

  4. Dredpiraterobt$

    Dredpiraterobt$ said, over 1 year ago

    Lets say that’s true, that 80% can’t read…
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    So you’re an 8th grade teacher and your salary is going to be based on what you can do with a class filled with kids that can’t read…
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    Does that sound fair to you?
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    You hire a carpenter and you give him the materials and the plans. 80% of the wood is warped, 80% of the nails are bent and the plans are missing 80% of the steps. The project requires 90% of the board footage and nails that you provided.
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    The result is less than elegant. Who is to blame? The Carpenter?

  5. Bruce4671

    Bruce4671 GoComics PRO Member said, over 1 year ago

    Ok guys, the articles say that 79% of eight graders do not read at an 8th grade level. So they can read just not well.

    We are talking about k-12.

    Where are reading fundamentals taught? Wrong. NOT k-12. Reading starts at home. Well, it does if you want to build the interest in reading or make sure that dyslexia is not going to be a problem. one of mine was so encumbered. Today he is an avid reader. WHY? Because I took the time to see the problem and train him BEFORE he ended up in the knowledge mills we call schools. So, once again, where are reading fundamentals taught?

    Still, if the very first instructors the come in contact with were the very best available, reading would not be a problem. That’s right kindergarten.

    But I’m just a stupid old redneck what the hell do I know.

  6. itisme

    itisme GoComics PRO Member said, over 1 year ago

    The strike is not about salaries and benefits, so this point is moot.

  7. sw10mm

    sw10mm said, over 1 year ago

    @RussellNash

    It’s ok to admit you don’t read and are ill informed. Try staying on topic and you won’t have so many people laughing at you.

  8. Ian Rey

    Ian Rey said, over 1 year ago

    Yeah, Bob! Knock down that straw man!

  9. Dredpiraterobt$

    Dredpiraterobt$ said, over 1 year ago

    @Bruce4671

    Non Sequitur much?
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    Let’s follow “your logic”
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    1. The non readers can read, just not at the 8th grade level (BTW, the NYT is written at a 6th grade level)
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    2. Reading is taught at home.
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    3. I’m a wonderful fellow and a brilliant and loving Dad.
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    4. Schools are just “knowledge mills”.
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    5. It is important that the first teachers are first rate
    (Did I mention that I’m first rate?)
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    Ergo…
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    The kindergarten teacher needs to be the one that teaches children to read.

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    Can you see how your conclusion doesn’t follow your supporting arguments?
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    I’m not trying to beat up on you, I’m just hoping that you’ll see why I see your conclusions as flawed.
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    “But I’m just a stupid old redneck what the hell do I know.”
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    I can’t tell you what you do know but I can tell you what you apparently don’t know, and that’s that interrogatory statements end with a question mark (?). (Yes, I’m a fireplace filled with kettles AND soot calling the TEA Pot “black!”)

  10. Dredpiraterobt$

    Dredpiraterobt$ said, over 1 year ago

    And now to answer Bruce4671’s erroneous suppositions.
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    I don’t have the time or the experience to answer all of them, but…
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    In Chicago, where there is a poverty issue and there is an underage birthing issue and there are generations of compounding of the problems, to expect that “THE ANSWER” is that parents read to their children is to live in a world of fantasy.
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    Single parent homes with latch key children and long hours of work for not even enough money to feed the family, yeah! There’s time to read before bedtime. Forget that mommy dropped out of school when she got pregnant at 15, and she was in a classroom that had 35 other students and a harried harrassed techer who was trying to teach history to a bunch of students who didn’t have reading skills. Not reading was the norm, reading was the exception.
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    “Still, if the very first instructors the come in contact with were the very best available…” The parent is the first teacher, so if she’s not the best available she should be removed from the equation? That’s a bold statement Mr. Bruce!
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    The Kindergarten teacher… Her (we’ll stereotype the gender) job is to equalize the children (I’m not saying I like the system, in fact I opted out of that system when I had the option). Some come in more prepared than others. My child, for example, was born in early February, she was nearly 30% older that the youngest child in the class (the one born in late December). That’s like you being 35 and he being 20, who knows more?
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    My daughter (a first born) had been in preschool since she was in her third September, she started school in her 6th September. Can you begin to see where the problem with thinking that the Kindergarten Teacher’s job isn’t teaching reading.
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    I will say that the option I had in my district (an option now unavailable) was that my daughter was in a classroom with Ks 1s and 2s and she was able to have peers on all three levels. Where she was more developed she could move up to the next grade level, where she was deficient she could be remedial with the lower grade levels. Also the upper students helped the lower students and that expression of what they knew moved that knowledge from a theoretical section of the brain to the practical centers, thus allowing the child to better understand what they knew.
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    That’ll do for now.

  11. Tigger

    Tigger GoComics PRO Member said, over 1 year ago

    These new rules are the direct result of Obama’s new Educaton plan that replaced NCLB

  12. markjoseph125

    markjoseph125 GoComics PRO Member said, over 1 year ago

    Earth to Gorrell, earth to Gorrell. Come in Gorrell. Important memo that apparently you did not get. The problems in American education are not, repeat not, the fault of the teachers. If you want to make sense, please draw cartoons about the baneful effects of TV and standardized testing. Over and out.

  13. josephW grant

    josephW grant GoComics PRO Member said, over 1 year ago

    Vacuous editorial art. Shameful laying such nonsense on teachers.

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