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   ANandy said, 9 months ago

   Our constitution is only a fragment of what it once was, thanks to the likes of Wilson, FDR, Johnson, Nixon, Carter, Bushes, the Great Oz, et al. Not to forget the Idiot Congresses and Supreme Courts.

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   rebekah315 said, 9 months ago

   This comic is more then just the constitution. It is honoring a great man!

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   charliekane said, 9 months ago

   Focus, ANandy, focus!

   We’re honoring Honest Abe here, not trashing the processes of Constitutional history.

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   RussellNash said, 9 months ago

   You’re right, ADandy. Where do people get off saying they’re worth more than 3/5 of a white man? Why do women need the right to vote?

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   Anthony 2816 said, 9 months ago

   Excellent points, Russell. Another example: Nowhere in the Constitution does it give us the right to be considered innocent until proven guilty. That’s just an example of judicial activism that the Republicans hate so much.

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   ANandy said, 9 months ago

   RussellBash says: You’re right, ADandy. Where do people get off saying they’re worth more than 3/5 of a white man? Why do women need the right to vote?
   ANandy replies: Where do you find I’m worth 3/5th of a white man? Have you read the nineteenth amendment(part of the constitution)?

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   deadheadzan said, 9 months ago

   This comic pays homage to Lincoln, it is your usual shuck and jive, Anandy, to take this and trash apparently most of politicians of past 100 years.

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   motivemagus said, 9 months ago

   I think you’re missing the point, ANandy… RussellNash is pointing out that the Constitution has been improved from the original, using sarcasm. At least I hope so!

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   ANandy said, 9 months ago

   My point: It may have been whole in 1865; it certainly is not now.

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    Simon_Jester said, 9 months ago

    You realize of course AnAndy, that had Thomas Jefferson not done something that you seem to consider ‘trashing the Constitution’, the United States’ borders would end at the Mississippi River.

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    redheadsandrazorbacks said, 9 months ago

    claps

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    oldlegodad said, 9 months ago

    S_J You have your moments of lucidity. Right on.

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    claudermilk said, 9 months ago

    I know I’m feeding the troll, but…

    Quick hint: It’s not 1865 any more. The claim that the constitution is “broken” as of that year is very telling, and I pity you.

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    InspectorWingNut said, 9 months ago

    “Things you never learned in school”

    A new understanding of the events leading to the Civil War recently gave me the realization that the Civil War was fought to obliterate a lawless enemy and re-admit the loser back into the Union. It was not fought to free slaves nor uphold the constitution nor to preserve the union. The war was fought to protect union interests. Yes, the South was against freeing slaves and the balance of support for abolition growing in the Congress served as THE major flash-point for the South to secede. The war was fought to protect the Union’s strategic interests. Feel free to correct me .
    
    I would also like to point out that it took a lot of un”common” schlubs to win the war and keep the Union whole and together. But Lincoln deserves cred for the idea and accomplishment as President having to rally the North and prosecute the war, which he did with heroism.
    In short Lincoln exercised the responsibilities of his office in the face of opposition from friend and foe alike for no other reason more important than that it was his Job to do so.

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    deadheadzan said, 9 months ago

    One reason the South seceded was because they wanted to continue admitting a slave state every time a free Northern state was admitted. European opinion and the North was experiencing the idea that slavery was evil. We still have slavery in this world and it is abhorent. It flourishes in poverty and greed.

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    motivemagus said, 9 months ago

    Pup – not sure I’m following all of what you say, but it’s intriguing. Who is the lawless enemy? And by “union” I assume you mean the Union, meaning the United States, in which case I largely agree with you - though slavery was clearly the breaking point for the South, despite the Southern apologists claiming “states rights.”
    Warning: I’m a Civil War buff…!

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    NoFearPup said, 9 months ago

    I should have said something to the effect of the North having to fight a partisan force south of their borders and one which would have been a strategic concern continuing into the future what with competition, expansion and over-lapping populaces. It occurred to me after posting here once and after talking to my Brother. It never made since to me that “we had to fight to keep together a Union of states that no longer wanted to stay together”, although this is the premise I got from history class. My Brother pointed out that after the South “took the first shot” the North wanted payback. And of course I don’t deny all the other reasons one normally thinks of concerning the Civil War. I just think Lincoln and the North knew they had a bitter enemy fomenting to the south and something had to be done sooner than later - which is the premise for a lot of conflicts it seems.

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    motivemagus said, 9 months ago

    Lincoln’s interpretation of the Union (the state of union) was very clear - he felt that once they all signed on, it was one nation, not a collection of states, and therefore they were not entitled to separate. Thus it was a rebellion, pure and simple. Southern apologists are still claiming “the war of Northern aggression” against the rights of individual states, but not so. A lot of interesting books on this out. One of my favorite narrative histories is Battle Cry of Freedom, by McPherson. I recommend it. Very readable.

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    deadheadzan said, 9 months ago

    My dad told me “the south is still fighting the civil war”, because this is how he saw it when he was in the navy during WW2, talking to and being around men from all over the country. My son lived and worked in the Atlanta area for several years and he told me “mom the south is still fighting the civil war.”